Re: [papercreters] papercrete covered containers -was- Re: ugly eco home

Mikey writes:  "I feel like I spent too much time insulating my office container. The result is really just a slow down of temperature shifts."

 

Isn't that the point of insulation?   What more were you expecting?

 

A shipping container is nothing but the skeleton of a structure, just as a timber frame would be, but it saves loads of time getting to that point.   When I watched the video, what took the time was that the papercrete was sprayed on in a very thin layer.   As such that whole  job would have to be repeated dozens of times to get thickness, unlike polyurethane spraying that is just done one time. 

 

Neal

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mikey Sklar

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:38 AM

Subject: Re: [papercreters] papercrete covered containers -was- Re: ugly eco home

I feel like I spent too much time insulating my office container. The
result is really just a slow down of temperature shifts. Keep in mind
I used up to 15" of PC in some areas. I will probably end up redoing
it as well to get a different shape as my block work is shabby.

On the other hand. If i needed a instant storage or workshop I would
consider buying the refridgerated containers made by Matsoy (used of
course). These go for about $3500 for a 33' container and have been
pre insulated on the inside with 7" of foam then stainless steel
walls added. They are very futuristic.

The pro's who do container mods for these scifi prefabs and custom
cases for secret weapons usually fur out the containers with 1x2's.
They add 2" of blue eps across the walls and ceiling.

On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:36 AM, slurryguy wrote:

> Dang. I sure wish I had read this second post of John's before I
> replied to his first one.
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> I guess he's not talking about an uninsulated container after all.
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> My previous comments don't apply the same to INSULATED containers.
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> Oh well. Maybe my last post served a purpose and illustrated some
> issues that were unrelated to what John is advocating. At the very
> least I got a good rant out of my system. It felt good at the
> time. :)
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> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "John Annesley" <John@...> wrote:
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>> Regarding it looking like a cargo container, just so you know- I
> have built with papercrete
>> using my own free labor, but if you were to actually hire folks to
> run the equipment and build
>> a papercrete house, it would likely be cheapest just to coat cargo
> containers with papercrete,
>> rather than try to build a load bearing papercrete wall system and
> bond beam or post and
>> beam with papercrete infill, and then framing a roof of some kind.
> Plus, cargo containers are
>> getting past code in California and all over the world in small and
> large construction alike;
>> there's precedent. They can't burn so inspectors may be fine with
> coating them with a
>> relatively untested insulator such as papercrete instead of the
> current trend of using rigid
>> foam insulation on the exterior of buildings and then giving that a
> stucco coat. One might be
>> able to get the major inspections taken care of without code being
> concerned with what
>> comprises the 'stucco' coat: one could consider papercrete as a
> thick alternative stucco and I
>> might be wrong, but perhaps inspections aren't required for stucco
> work? I'm in rural AZ and
>> don't have to worry about codes at the moment.
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