Thursday, August 9, 2012

Re: [papercreters] Re: Learn all about Sustainability

Greetings,
Dan now speaks all over the world, has started a mentoring program and
is super busy teaching others how to do what he is doing. The movement
is growing. Our local dump will not allow scavenging, the insurance
companies are the problem. So, they set up a facility on site for low
income families to pick up building supplies, from the dump. The stuff
is separated before being dumped, so it can be saved. It is called
TIPS, Trash Into Plow Shares, and Huntsville sistered the program in
Houston. And Dan Phillips brain storm in action.

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas

On 8/9/2012 8:30 AM, Forrest Charnock wrote:
> That is great news, I wished it would have happened when I was still
> healthy and still at home (Houston)
> In Mass. the demolisher I was buying wood from was forced to destroy
> 4.5 million feet of beautiful Engleman Spruce decking 4.5" by 12 to
> 16" 25 feet long. A few truckloads were sold as boiler fuel and the
> rest was buried and left to rot. You could buy it for about what it
> cost to remove it and load it on a truck. .15 a board foot! What
> structures that would have made. It is as light as pine and strong
> enough to build airplanes from .
>
> On 8/9/12, Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@windstream.net
> <mailto:gartht%40windstream.net>> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > Habitat for Humanity no longer exists in this part of Texas, Thanks to
> > Dan Phillips and his Phoenix Connection. He builds homes with 80%
> > recycled and landfill rescue materials. Never electrical or water
> > lines, for obvious reasons, but the rest is all recycled. Lots of
> > youtubes on him.
> >
> > Bright Blessings,
> > Garth & Kim Travis
> > www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
> > Bedias, Texas
> >
> > On 8/8/2012 10:38 PM, peddler7122 wrote:
> >> Sustainability
> >>
> >> It should mean the use of a resource that does not deplete it.
> >>
> >> Papercrete and Rice Hulls are sustainable.
> >>
> >> I spent 15 years salvaging old buildings and saved millions of board
> >> feet of heart pine, maple flooring , hardwoods , red and white pine,
> >> Douglas Fir and masonry such as roofing tiles and bricks.
> >> My experience with people like Habitat for Humanity is that they have a
> >> blank check to write tax credits to demolishers and the sell the easily
> >> removable items like clawfoot tubs and pedestal sinks then abandon the
> >> irreplaceable heart pine to the landfill because they NEVER use recycled
> >> wood. The guys like me who took down the structures and used pneumatic
> >> nail pullers and back muscles saved almost ever stick but once the
> >> goodies were gone paying Habitat for the salvage rights represented an
> >> increase of 400$ and put us all out of that business.
> >> The EPA flew me up to Hartford to do a speech on recycling because one
> >> of the managers saw that money had to be made to make a difference in
> >> the waste stream. He was the only one it seems. At first I was a big hit
> >> but then they asked me where I got my grants and I told them I used
> >> pieces of paper with Grants picture I saved up.
> >> They were horrified that I had committed the sin of profiteering off
> >> mother earth and even worse I actually did something.
> >>
> >> My experience with people in positions of power who push sustainability
> >> are only interested in bankrupting America through outrageous energy
> >> prices and they hate anyone who applies the capitalist system to the
> >> problem because it is the only one that works. They have no interest in
> >> the environment , just scaring people out of using so called "fossil
> >> fuels" and trying to force unworkable alternatives regardless of whether
> >> we can pay for it or not.
> >>
> >> I have personally kept more out of the waste stream than Tuscaloosa
> >> Alabama in one year and they have a billboard congratulating themselves.
> >>
> >> Instead of sustainability why not find out from those who actually do
> >> something what needs to be done.
> >> There needs to be a dialoge with the cities giving demolisher's a
> >> reasonable time period to salvage old buildings.
> >> More recycle friendly codes to help the reuse of building materials from
> >> demo sites and things like papercrete .
> >>
> >> In Houston there is a historic hotel called the Rice. I sourced 186,00
> >> square feet, over 6 acres of antique maple flooring which I believe was
> >> the largest re installation of wood flooring in history.
> >> We either sourced or resourced and installed 4 other project of over
> >> 100,000 square feet in Houston, Dallas, and Brooklyn ,New York and
> >> hundreds of smaller buildings and houses as well as our wholesale
> >> business.
> >> http://downtownhouston.org/guidedetail/post-rice-lofts/
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Forrest Charnock
>
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