Re: [papercreters] Re: Learn all about Sustainability

Very interesting. 

There needs to be a dialoge with the cities giving demolisher's a reasonable time period to salvage old buildings.
More recycle friendly codes to help the reuse of building materials from demo sites and things like papercrete .

Fairbanks, Alaska, had at least two public recycling sites where people could drop off all kinds of appliances, furniture, toys, whatever ... and anyone could go through it and take what they wanted. In Fairbanks "somebody" (volunteers?) sorted  through  everything  so it was all organized. That's the coolest recycling system I've seen yet.  

Around here, Kingman Arizona, NO SALVAGING signs are at the dump and recycling is limited to glass, paper, etc.  

I totally agree with your analysis,

Christine

At 08:38 PM 8/8/2012, you wrote:

 



--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Pam Cole <honeyland12@...> wrote:
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>  Thank u very much Packy
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>    Thank you
>       Pam

Sustainability

It should mean the use of a resource that does not deplete it.

Papercrete and Rice Hulls are sustainable.

I spent 15 years salvaging old buildings and saved millions of board feet of heart pine, maple flooring , hardwoods , red and white pine, Douglas Fir and masonry such as roofing tiles and bricks.
My experience with people like Habitat for Humanity is that they have a blank check to write tax credits to demolishers and the sell the easily removable items like clawfoot tubs and pedestal sinks then abandon the irreplaceable heart pine to the landfill because they NEVER use recycled wood. The guys like me who took down the structures and used pneumatic nail pullers and back muscles saved almost ever stick but once the goodies were gone paying Habitat for the salvage rights represented an increase of 400$ and put us all out of that business.
The EPA flew me up to Hartford to do a speech on recycling because one of the managers saw that money had to be made to make a difference in the waste stream. He was the only one it seems. At first I was a big hit but then they asked me where I got my grants and I told them I used pieces of paper with Grants picture I saved up.
They were horrified that I had committed the sin of profiteering off mother earth and even worse I actually did something.

My experience with people in positions of power who push sustainability are only interested in bankrupting America through outrageous energy prices and they hate anyone who applies the capitalist system to the problem because it is the only one that works. They have no interest in the environment , just scaring people out of using so called "fossil fuels" and trying to force unworkable alternatives regardless of whether we can pay for it or not.

I have personally kept more out of the waste stream than Tuscaloosa Alabama in one year and they have a billboard congratulating themselves.

Instead of sustainability why not find out from those who actually do something what needs to be done.
There needs to be a dialoge with the cities giving demolisher's a reasonable time period to salvage old buildings.
More recycle friendly codes to help the reuse of building materials from demo sites and things like papercrete .

In Houston there is a historic hotel called the Rice. I sourced 186,00 square feet, over 6 acres of antique maple flooring which I believe was the largest re installation of wood flooring in history.
We either sourced or resourced and installed 4 other project of over 100,000 square feet in Houston, Dallas, and Brooklyn ,New York and hundreds of smaller buildings and houses as well as our wholesale business.
http://downtownhouston.org/guidedetail/post-rice-lofts/

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