Brilliant! This is exactly what I was thinking. I already called
the building department and it was just as you said! They would
consider it allowable only if an engineer would sign off on the
stress/fire/etc test....now where to get that done is rather amystery
at this point.
--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "mdumiller" <mdmiller1@...>
wrote:
>
> The base IBC unmodified as I recall excludes storage sheds under
120sf
> from requiring permits. BUT, many towns have modified this,
including
> requiring permits for any size shed. You'll also need to deal with
> side yard and rear yard setback requirements along with proximity to
> adjacent structures (regardless of the requirement for a permit).
> Just call your local building department and ask them what you need
to
> do. Although some are prima donna's or act the gestapo, they are
just
> trying to do their job well so they can feed their families like
> everybody else. I've found most very helpful and they appreciate
> communication, they don't get bonuses based on the number of
citations
> they write, in fact it creates a lot of extra paperwork.
>
> Now, if they do require a permit, you may run into a situation with
> papercrete since it is a non-conventional material. They prefer
sheds
> to be of non-combustible material due to storage of gasoline and
> mowers and the like, and some towns have added this as a
requirement,
> usually driven through advocacy by the local fire guys. Requesting
a
> conditional permit that prohibits the storage of gasoline might be a
> solution.
>
> Your other option is provide them with a strength/stress or load
> analysis, fire resistance analysis, fire endurance test, resistance
to
> termite test, and possibly something on connections from other
> materials into the papercrete. Even without an ICC evaluation
report
> this might satisfy them. But your storage shed might get to be
quite
> a project. However, we would all appreciate getting the test
results.
>
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "slurryguy" <slurryguy@> wrote:
> >
> > The shed, depending upon the design and size, very likely does
not
> > require a permit. The IBC has been written to allow small
> > lawn/garden type structures.
> >
> > I don't have the specific code in front of me and am typing from
> > memory. I THINK if the structure is under 100sqft, has no
plumbing,
> > and has no electrical that you can build it, no questions asked.
> >
> > This is one reason why this type of structure is the PERFECT
place to
> > start. You can build it quickly and relatively easily. It also
> > gives you a test structure to get all the bugs worked out. This
> > structure also gives you something to show inspectors and other
> > officials. Once they see something working, they'll be much more
> > likely to understand and approve what you are proposing for your
> > house and other areas of your property.
> >
> > Keep in mind that most local communities write their own
specialty
> > codes in addition to the IBC. If your local community has put
> > special local restrictions on these small structures, you'll need
to
> > heed them. They may require the small structure to be placed in
a
> > certain way on your property, or look a certain way.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "lefamaster" <chris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am tiptoeing through a field of eggs it would seem. I have
plans
> > > for the following.
> > > 1)a shed.
> > > 2)a porch cover.
> > > 3)a deck.
> > > 4) Insullation by fibrous adobe in my walls and possibly
cieling.
> > >
> > > It occurs to me that it might be educational to pit myself in
the
> > > very middle of a code battle, for the enlightment of the
> > experience.
> > > I know we have a few members going throught a few skirmishes of
> > sorts
> > > with their own local officials. Haven't heard any updates from
> > > thoose arenas yet.
> > >
> > > Maybe I should attempt to build something with the exact
premise of
> > > encountering a code issue, then take it from there?
> > >
> > > I was going to post this on the Building Code site, but I am
> > > desperately seeking a topic to set fire to this issue. So I
bring
> > you
> > > this.
> > >
> > > I am prepared to psuedo-battle my local officials in an attempt
to
> > > figure this all out, in the name of learning.
> > >
> >
>
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