[papercreters] Re: Footings for Papercrete

Sorry to hear about your dog. Hope he had a long and happy life before his time came.

I'm rarely one to say that something "can't be done."

I'm more of a person that looks for advantages and disadvantages for doing things in various ways. I tend to enjoy finding the "best" way. That might mean the cheapest way, the strongest way, the easiest, fastest, simplest, longest lasting, least maintenance, most energy efficient, or a combination of any/all of the above. Almost never does anyone accomplish such an optimal goal, and there are almost always many different ways to accomplish the same things. We each simply try to do the best with what materials and resources we have available and our own personal skill sets.

Maybe I'm getting old, but when I see tires for building... I see a lot of backbreaking work. Other people see tires, and they see amazing structures. More power to them. I'll cheer them on from a distance. A far enough distance that I won't be asked to swing a sledge, or pound a tamper.

In an effort to be of some useful assistance on your project, I offer the following suggestion:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/natural-health/homemade-herbal-liniment-zmaz99fmztak.aspx#axzz2YMmd3Gv7

Somebody's probably going to be needing it. ;)


Please post photos of your project as you build it.


--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Alan <rustaholic777@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I do have a lot of tires laying around.
> I agree with your vision of papercrete inside tires.
>  
> I had been considering just a dirt floor with a standard shipping pallet to set the batteries, charge controller and inverter on.
> I guess I will just get to use 24 to 30 tires with wheels on this project.
> I have 16 inches of top soil to remove then eight inches of a heavy clay / sand mix.
> Below that is white beach sand as far as I have ever dug down which is nine feet.
> I was burying a well love dog.
> I want that well draining soil below my tires and the wide print of the tires should keep it stable.
>  
> I just had a picture pop into my head.
> If I remove all of that soil from the whole shed area then stack in the tires and cut down a couple of my huge 250 pound pallets they could be the floor. Just keep them to the inside of the tires and the papercrete walls would be outside the floor pallet right on top of the tires. Throw a couple pieces of OSB down on the pallets and I would have a great floor.
>  
> If I got really wild I could stack 120 tires down there and have a basement under the shed.
> That would fill with water and drain away in that sand,,,,,
> hum,,,,,,,,, maybe seal the basement tire walls with some of those pieces of heavy duty banner fabric I have,,,,,, I could tuck the top of the fabric into the papercrete walls about four inches,,,,,
> The heavy clay / sand soil that I would remove I could put on top around the shed to encourage water to run away from the building.
> This might be worth doing just to have a better place to put so many tires.
> A trap door in the floor would let me check things out down there.
>  
> I am well known for doing things others feel can't be done.
> Alan in Michigan
>
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