[papercreters] Re: Footings for Papercrete

I simply don't envision an advantage of filling tires with papercrete, no matter how cement heavy. Not to mention that it would be extremely difficult to fill a tire completely with papercrete without significant air gaps inside the top sidewall.

Tires filled with papercrete would make it very difficult for the papercrete to dry inside the tire. Then, after the papercrete shrinks, the tire will have voids and become bouncy. Not exactly desirable for a stable structure.

For a floor, I simply don't see the point of using tires at all. If you have built a good footing and a solid stemwall that is anchored in place with rebar or other scrap steel, you can fill inside the stemwall with loose gravel or roadbase and tamp it solid.

Using tires with the wheels or rims still in place makes even less sense to me. I don't understand where you are going with that idea at all.

All of that said... it's your shed. Build it how you want. Maybe you have a new idea that will surprise everyone. Trying an experiment on a small structure is a low risk proposition. If it doesn't work, it's not that big of a deal.


Using tires filled with tamped gravel can make a decent foundation if one chooses to go that direction, but I wouldn't use them for more than a stem wall on top of a rubble trench footing.

Sounds like you have a big supply of used tires you want to get rid of. They can be a great resource if you are in your twenties and have lots of extra energy, big muscles, a strong back, and a lot of cute girls watching that you can show off for. And many months and lots of friends to help do the work.


Are you nuts?

Well, you do realize that being a little nutz is important to successful DIY building. It's pretty much a requirement. You have to be nutzy enough to start the project and see it through to the finish. Sanity usually is not helpful in that process. I'm living proof of that concept.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Alan <rustaholic777@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings folks,
> For a shed I am considering building I am wondering about using tires with wheels at least for two rows then on top of them use bare tires filled with a cement heavy papercrete.
> The walls will go our far enough to cover the papercrete.
>
> For the floor inside the shed tires filled with papercrete with more papercrete between the tires.
> In the shed will be a few garden tools but the main reason for the shed is a place to hang a solar panel and several batteries inside with an inverter for the electric fence I will need around the 1 1/2 acre field.
> Am I nuts?
> I could just build the shed on top of a couple of my huge pallets but if it will work I would rather use the tires.
>
> Alan in Michigan
>




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