RE: [papercreters] Re: F/C joins earthship

I think the paint would help papercrete, but may trap moisture longer as your mix is wet/ where in concrete you want that moisture trapped so will cure. I use some latex, like a quart to a bag of cement in mortor mixer. Seems to make it stickier,smoother ,more adhesive. Higher quality brands are better than cheap ones. I go to paint stores and make deal on all the wrong color mixes etc they have and take it all like 100 gallons , I save the colors seperate and if I want colored concrete I mIx enough to get color I want and put into mix. color is always light after you mix cement sand etc.but can be nice earth tones or lght brick colors. Saves buying concrete coloring as that can get expensive.   hope this all makes sense. I think the key is to use our total waste stream instead of landfills. --- On Sat, 10/17/09, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> wrote: From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [papercreters] Re: F/C joins earthship To: "papercreters papercreters" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 9:57 AM   Good point Ev. Does that mean the the paint is ineffectual? Sincerely, Judith Check out my new Squidoo Lens at http://www.squidoo. com/papercreteby judith EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com From: evelynanne8@ gmail.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:08:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: F/C joins earthship   It probably depends on the amount of paint that is used and how well the paint is mixed before it is put in (if the paint has been sitting around long much of that makes paint paint has settled at the bottom and should be mixed well to coordinate it back into the rest of the liquid.); and, I would imagine, how much water is used in the mix. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@ hotmail.com> wrote:   So you are saying that latex paint will speed up the curing process? I have found that it slows down the papercrete curing. Sincerely, Judith Check out my new Squidoo Lens at http://www.squidoo. com/papercreteby judith EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me To: papercreters@ yahoogroups. com From: robertmerrill1953@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:40:26 +0000 Subject: [papercreters] Re: F/C joins earthship   The term "kick" is used to describe set-up time. If we have found one flaw in F/C it is the length of cure time. I found by accident that latex paint has an effect on the cure time. Whilst doing a workshop at Lost Valley we thru some discarded paint in the tow mixer. As usual we did not use it all and I simply covered it for the next days class. Imagine my surprise to find a half full tow mixer solidified the next a.m.!! I have since been using latex to cure times more reasonable and to add some moisture resistence to the mix. Yes, F/C stands for Fibrecrete which is none other than P/C papercrete. I particularly refer to a mix that utilizes emulsified fibre, portland cement, lime, clay, and sand. It gives me the non-shrink material necessary for the plastering of bare strawbales. No, there is never such a thing as a stupid question.... .. maybe some dumb answers though?! hahaha -- Chinese herbals for the Western Mind www.ozbotanicals. com Skype~eve8mon

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