Thanks for that very interesting reply. I looked at the Hesco R house. Looks like those tents they had on MASH.
So we are of like minds regarding the compsting toilets etc. I have lived with my sawdust toilet for the last 3 summers and dind't have a problem with it.
Please keep us posted on what you learn about minimalistic living.
Sincerely, Judith
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From: canineaficionado@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:13:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Re: PC and rebar Plus views on codes
JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:
I did actually get a permit a while back for an adobe house. It was pretty simple. I just drafted it, did the foundation, framing, elevations and roof plans all by hand. I submitted the whole thing and was approved first time around with just a few minor changes.
The reason I never built the house, other than the fact that I didn't want an adobe house, was that the price to do it all by the code was about 5 times what I would have paid for the house I really wanted. So I spent a thousand dollars or so on building, septic and electrical permits and then never did anything with them.
Now I want to do a small starter house. One room with fireplace and loft, to be added onto later. I don't want or need electricity or a septic system. As far as I know all systems must be installed from the get-go and the house as permitted must be completed in 12 months.
What I'm thinking is to get a permit for a barn, finish that and then convert it to a house later.
What happens when someone just wants to put up a vacation place such as a hunting camp? Do they have to go through all the official things? Kerosene lamps, candles and an outhouse are fine with me.
I did actually get a permit a while back for an adobe house. It was pretty simple. I just drafted it, did the foundation, framing, elevations and roof plans all by hand. I submitted the whole thing and was approved first time around with just a few minor changes.
The reason I never built the house, other than the fact that I didn't want an adobe house, was that the price to do it all by the code was about 5 times what I would have paid for the house I really wanted. So I spent a thousand dollars or so on building, septic and electrical permits and then never did anything with them.
Now I want to do a small starter house. One room with fireplace and loft, to be added onto later. I don't want or need electricity or a septic system. As far as I know all systems must be installed from the get-go and the house as permitted must be completed in 12 months.
What I'm thinking is to get a permit for a barn, finish that and then convert it to a house later.
What happens when someone just wants to put up a vacation place such as a hunting camp? Do they have to go through all the official things? Kerosene lamps, candles and an outhouse are fine with me.
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We are also wondering about this issue, as we want to put up a sturdy, fireproof, windproof "camping enclosure" and wonder if we are going to be busted for it. We will have a "legal water source" (cistern in the back of the truck), and a "recepticle for holding compostable material" (humanure toilet) and a homemade solar shower with a gravel pit underneath for filtration. I don't think the county approves of much of this (if they know).
Hesco's R-House fits our requirements for the camp building. Mike called Hesco this morning to get a price on their kit (http://www.hesco.com/rhouse/concept.html ). It has to be shipped from the UK - the regular version is £2,500 plus shipping (?) This roof system allows absolutely no snow. The winter version is only 6 months old and is being field tested in Afganistan now. It costs £9,000 plus shipping because of the extra roof steel.
Well, heck, for that price, we can buy gabions here in the US and some geotextile liners to hold the dirt, and put a fc roof on. Not as fast and easy, but cheaper. But if the county swung by and told us to take it down, there'd be fireworks. It would be wise to call it a livestock shelter- looks like one anyway.
I understand about the codes' intent, both positive and negative. But my welfare and safety are my responsibility.
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