Wednesday, August 1, 2007

[papercreters] Re: Regarding Forums and Papercrete Building Code

Welcome back out into the light, Dusty, don't forget your
sunglasses, 8)

I can't find much to dispute in your well written post.

You're welcome for the invitation.

You yourself are an interesting catch 22.

I was only able to send that invitation through the Yahoo system.
Without that you wouldn't be here to point out Yahoo's limitations.
Irony can be so much fun!

Yogi Berra described it far better than I ever could, "If the world
were perfect, it wouldn't be."

I'm not familiar with the system used on your linux forum. It
certainly sounds interesting. I will make it a point to look at it.

Another great point. We all could do a better job of trimming off
old posts at the end of our replies. Keeping the one you're replying
to makes sense, but rarely is more than that helpful.

It wasn't so bad out in the sunlight was it? C'mon. Get a tan with
the rest of us.


--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Dusty <mys.terious@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, gang,
>
> I've been lurking, too, for a long time. (Thanks, Slurryguy, for
> inviting me!) Finally I have something to say.
>
> First, on the debate of forum vs. yahoo.group; I wasn't going to
open
> this can of worms, but since someone did it for me, I'll grab my
spoon
> and start dishing it out. <mischievous grin>
>
> I belong to the Linux Newbies forum,

http://www.newbieslinux.com/forum/

> , and it works quite well. You can subscribe to any topics you
like, and
> choose to accept email notifications of any new posts in those
topics,
> or any new posts to you in any topic/thread. You can subscribe to
as
> many topics as you like. It has a complete index, making it
relatively
> easy to find either an answer or the appropriate place to ask a
question.
>
> This yahoo.group thing drives me crazy! I don't want individual
emails
> coming in all day, so
> I find myself going days without looking at a new daily digest
because I
> dread the endless scrolling through endless repetitions of
seemingly
> endless threads. I miss half of what's being said because I get
burned
> out before I get to the end of the digest. I have tons (megabytes)
of
> papercrete posts in my email because I don't know which ones to
delete,
> and which ones might have something worth saving. Even if I mark
them
> "important reference" or "general reference", or whatever, it takes
> forever to scroll through to find the one tidbit of information I
saved
> it for - and there is no way to tell which email it might be in. I
> almost never go to the group site.
>
> On the other hand, in the Newbies Linux forum, I only get an email
if
> it's on a topic I'm interested in or an announcement to all
members, and
> all I have to do is click on the email link and Firefox takes me
right
> there. If I need to scroll back to see what else has been said, I
only
> have to look at a post once, except when someone quotes someone
else
> (usually briefly) to make it clear what they're replying to. You
can
> also search for all posts by a certain person, or all posts on a
topic,
> or posts you haven't read yet, or a variety of other options. Each
post
> has a number and the number of the post it is in response to, so
you
> can click that number to quickly get to the originating post.
>
> As for speed, if the HTML code is written properly, the forum is
fast to
> load and to navigate, and is accessible to visually impaired
people.
> John C. Fish (ProfFish in the forum) is the author/moderator of
this
> forum, and can be easily contacted there. He is currently teaching
> accessible web design at a college in New Mexico.
>
> With a forum, you could have a topic just for the building code
project,
> and anyone interested could either subscribe to it or just drop in
> occasionally to see what's going on. There could be topics for
regional
> specific data, recipes, equipment, etc. - even a chat room/coffee
> house/dogpen or whatever you want to call it for general chatting
and
> bantering. It beats the hell out of an email box overflowing with
the
> same messages quoted over and over and over and over and over and
> o..............
>
> Now, on the subject of building codes, I have a question. Pardon my
> ignorance if the answer is common knowledge - I live a semi-
sheltered
> life (the roof leaks). <groan>
>
> Is there a written-in-stone all climates, all structures, all
purposes
> recipe for cinder blocks, stucco, bricks and especially stone? How
about
> the type and dimensions of wood used? I have always thought the
> particular "recipe" depended on where the items were produced and
what
> was available nearby. It seems like a better standard code would be
one
> based on a structural integrity test, in which a sample of the
building
> material is tested for strength, water resistance, etc., not on the
> particular paper (or whatever) it's made of. Knowing the structural
> properties of a material should be sufficient to enable an expert
to
> examine the blueprints for design flaws, shouldn't it?
>
> Thanks for 'listening'.
>
> Dusty
>
> P.S.: Wait until you have to scroll through THIS message a hundred
> times! Personally, I think I'll auto-delete every message that
comes in
> for the next week, just in case. <grin>
>
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