Thursday, June 18, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Re: Hesco R-House Prices and Questions



Spaceman said: "My question would be why not just build a dome and be done with it?"
 
Well, because we have zero experience building anything. ( Well, Mike 'builds' firmware; I 'build' quilts.) This kit comes with all the parts except the fill, and instructions, and all we have to do is assemble and fill- with a rented machine. No thinking required. We can call it an 'accessory building' and skip loads of code issues.
 
What we'd get from it is the ability to spend more time on the land, observe weather patterns, figure out where to put the house (it's a big, mostly flat piece of land). We live 2 hours away, and with no shelter to be even slightly protected in, it is no fun being there. (Yes, we are spoiled city folks.) It seems like it would take a long time to build a dome. And we're wanting to do the pay-as-you-go plan.
 
We are hindered by a lack of experience and the distance to the land. More and more and more ideas are welcome. Perhaps we can synthesize a bunch of ideas into a cohesive whole. Thanks!
Tina in Colorado


From: spaceman01of99 <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:06:44 PM
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Hesco R-House Prices and Questions

I'm limping, but not dead!

From looking at their website and how these things are made, I'd say they would easily support a pc geodesic roof. Of course you'd want to make the walls circular instead of in a square.

A 17'd pc dome weighs over a ton with 3" panels, and a lot more when you add the top coats. If your walls were filled with rock or sand, no compression needed. If filled with dirt, you would want to compress it to avoid settling.

"Normal" geodesics don't fit well on a square, but there are several designs that will let you transit between round and square. The best example would be the patented design by Bob Seidentoph in CO. With some design work just about any geodesic could be modified to have a square base.

Those wire cages aren't anything special, the highway department in TX uses them to build water runoff areas, filled with rock. They don't have the tarp inside, but that isn't needed with the size of rock they use.

My question would be why not just build a dome and be done with it? I have moved way too much dirt and rock by hand in my life, that stuff is heavy! Of course that's more productive than a membership in a gym.

Spaceman

--- In papercreters@ yahoogroups. com, "canineaficionado" <canineaficionado@ ...> wrote:
>
> Got an update from Mike about pricing on these units that were discussed under the codes discussion.
> R-House – Standard: £2546.25
> R-House – Summer: £2983.94
> R-House – Winter: £2927.79
>
> Are there any domeheads out there- Spaceman is incommunicado right now. Could you put a geodesic papercrete triangle roof on one these R-houses? How do you put a dome on a square? Is it a poor match because the gabions might settle and crack the roof? The R-House itself is fluid under seismic stresses. Thanks for any input.
> Tina in Colorado
>




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