Thursday, December 31, 2009

[papercreters] Thanks so much Spaceman...Blowing Papercrete like stucco??? Passive Solar Books?






Spaceman,  Thanks again.  Wood gas, an interesting concept, will try to learn more about it.   There is so much to learn and never enough time.  I am a homeschooling mom and time is so precious.  But I am determined to get this done.
 
One never knows what the winters will be like out there. This past summer had rain most every day, not usual for high dessert. The wildflowers were fantastic.
 
We do not live out there, so have to plan ahead very carefully.  Charmaine did send a great resource for books today.  Updated ones that I had not read yet.
 
 
The R40 something must mean that you don't have to produce much heat to stay warm.  We keep our regular house at 65 or so in the winter and at 80 in the summer, so we are use to cooler temps.  Out there the winds blow so much in the winter, so don't know how it will be.  
 
I am running as fast as I can, as living in the city is so undesirable anymore.  I long to live out there and be creative and raise most of our own food.  My faternal grandparents lived in a soddy in the next county to the west in the 1800's-1900's, so my soul is out there.  If they could do it , I can do it.
 
 
When you have a chance post some new pictures.  How do I contact those that have pictures on this site?  I tried but the send message would never open for me to write to anyone.  I guess I will just have to go and figure out the names and go from there.  Hope I can find their email address and just transport them to the Yahoo group.
 
Well work is calling and the 18 inches of snow on the ground make me want to stay in doors.
 
Calle and the gang
 
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calle vallede wrote:
Hi Spaceman, 
 
Wow had a great time going through your pages. Is the dome house done, as in livable? 
I lived in the big dome from 2001 until 2008. I had to spend a year doing parental care, then moved into the small dome in February of this year. I'm still adding papercrete but have about R12 at the thinnest part, and R48 over about half of it so far.
 
 
We have so much to do yet before we get started. Do not have the cash to do the steel dome thing. Will just have to do the PC walls and inner walls.  Trying to get water to the site in the early spring.
I have experimented with making domes without a frame, casting pc triangles and then putting them together as a panel dome. However, you can often get scrap pipe from construction sites since electricians commonly throw away any conduit shorter than 5' at the end of the day. Even if you have to buy the tubing, you can make a frame for a 16' dome from a couple of hundred dollars worth of pipe.
 
 
You said that you were doing the heated floor system, yes?  Are you putting in a terra tile floor?
Right now my floor is 2" of concrete floating on 10" (+/-) of papercrete. I'll possibly cover it with ceramic tile from Mexico, but have not finalized my plans. I may just do a textured and stained concrete cap.
 
Owen Grieger or what ever his name is the Mr. Hart from Colo have a page that tells about using road base for it.  As we will be off the grid we need to use all the methods that we can to stay warm and use as little power as possible.
 
Have you ever found a way to make a steam system work to create power as in a generator? Thought that in the winter with a wood burner and a wood cook stove may be able to capture some of that heat for a power source.  I am not a person with the background to build that kind of thing, but am willing to learn from others and use the web.
Steam is dangerous at the pressures needed to generate power, not something for a novice to play with. You can generate electricity directly from heat by using Peltier devices, though they aren't exactly dirt cheap. Another alternative might be using woodgas to run a generator.
 
Right now need a good book on passive solar.  We will use passive solar and wind power for our off the grid living.
I have pv panels and a small wind generator. I bought them used at about half the retail cost. I am still connected to the grid for large loads like welders and power tools that would deplete my small storage bank rapidly. Can't recommend a book, though.

spaceman
 
 
Thanks again,
 
Calle




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