RE: [papercreters] Cardbooard

I switched from newspaper to cardboard when the newspaper plant locked their bins. They get money from the recycled paper and don't want anyone taking it. I started getting bales of cardboard from behind Wallgreens. I can fit 3 bales in the truck.

I like the cardboard. It's much easier to get and comes baled so it isn't blowing out of the truck. I only have to soak it for a few minutes to get it ready to mulch. It doesn't take much extra towing in the mixer to mulch it up. It mixes well with the cement and perlite, although there is a lot of plastic from the boxes, mostly tape I think. It seems to cure in about the same length of time. I like the brown color better than the gray of the newspaper. So I would say I'm very happy with the cardboard.


I would not use papercrete for a garage floor or driveway. Even if it doesn't rain a lot where you are, papercrete will break down if it gets wet and I think it would crumble.

Sincerely, Judith

Check out my new Squidoo Lens at http://www.squidoo.com/papercretebyjudith

EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me

---

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: rayvt_me@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:05:07 +0000
Subject: [papercreters] Cardbooard

 

Can any one tell me, if using cardboard, causes any differences one should know in construction of blocks, panels and floors. Also, wondering if anyone has set up a couple of mixers and poured (or better pumped) the papercrete like concrete into forms for walls, foundations, etc.

Also, can papercrete be used for garage floors and driveways, rather than obvious other type of yard materials (pavement, concrete,etc).

I have checked with local food store, and they will provide as much cardboard as I want. The nice thing, paper is another story as far as supply, here in Elko, NV. The food store produce tons of cardboard a week.

Happy Thanksgiving, "May your Turkey be plump and golden brown, and the pies, cakes and cookies not find your waist line."

Ray

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

Re: [papercreters] Holiday

or.. go how you like and just enjoy yourself until you pop some buttons.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too Pat, and everyone else!  So much to be thankful of!!!!

Perry

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Pat B Parham <texasweldinginspector@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Wishing all a happy Thanksgiving and remember go low calorie and have more fun.

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[papercreters] Cardbooard

Can any one tell me, if using cardboard, causes any differences one should know in construction of blocks, panels and floors. Also, wondering if anyone has set up a couple of mixers and poured (or better pumped) the papercrete like concrete into forms for walls, foundations, etc.

Also, can papercrete be used for garage floors and driveways, rather than obvious other type of yard materials (pavement, concrete,etc).

I have checked with local food store, and they will provide as much cardboard as I want. The nice thing, paper is another story as far as supply, here in Elko, NV. The food store produce tons of cardboard a week.

Happy Thanksgiving, "May your Turkey be plump and golden brown, and the pies, cakes and cookies not find your waist line."

Ray

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
papercreters-digest@yahoogroups.com
papercreters-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
papercreters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[papercreters] Holiday

Wishing all a happy Thanksgiving and remember go low calorie and have more fun.

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___

[papercreters] End of life properties of papercrete

Hello All,

I am researching different papercrete mixtures and the potential use next to walling material. I did some fire testing in my backyard and was able to do some preure tests at the labrotory of my uni.

But one question still sits in my head.

I wounder of economical friendly papercrete is in the end of its life. When a building is demolished we have a large quantity of cellulose fibers locked in cement. Can this be re-used some way? I think that the cement would give a to alkali enviroment for plant growth, so the cellulose of the pc cannot be used to fertilize plants.

Where I life, the Netherlands, a large paper recycling industry is available, where paper is re-used many times before it looses its value trough shortend fibre length. ( and then is also not usable anymore for pc)

Is this different from the US. As I read that paper otherwise goes to a landfill.

I like the material allot but I cannot find any Critical statments regarding the end of life of the material.

A discussion about this would be greatly appriciated.

best regards

Chris

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
papercreters-digest@yahoogroups.com
papercreters-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
papercreters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[papercreters] Papercrete as plaster??

I'm living in the Philippines.

Except for the poorest people, all construction here is concrete due to climate and pests. This is to say.... either CHB (Concrete Hollow Block) or poured concrete post and beam with CHB infill. The building instructors are VERY conservative and it's very difficult to get anything new approved. Shotcrete, for example, is not approved.

I plan to try PC both poured and as cast blocks for outbuildings, walkways and so forth that are not subject to the inspectors BUT..... I've been wondering about PC as a plaster over CHB.

They currently use a very rich sand/cememt mix 1/2" to 1" thick over the CHB with a pure cement/water final smoothing coat. A bit expensive and much subject to surface cracking.

I've searched the PAPERCREATERS archive but I've not found any comments about using PC as a finish plaster over anything.

I'd love to hear from anyone who's tried it expecially with regard to resistance to humidity and pests, workability, finish surface quality, etc.

I'm also interested in it's ability to take detail and fine finish as in mouldings, etc.

Any comments will be appreciated.

TIA

John Buczek
Valencia, Negros Oriental, Philippines

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
papercreters-digest@yahoogroups.com
papercreters-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
papercreters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [papercreters] papercrete formula database

We are working on it, but it's not done yet. This has a few basic formulas -  http://papercrete.wikidot.com/. And a search of the messages on this group should provide a few more.

Tina in Colorado

---

From: aaetexas <aaetexas@yahoo.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 8:44:28 AM
Subject: [papercreters] papercrete formula database

 

I am new to papercrete. I have heard that someone may have compiled a database (list) of formulas that folks have used. I would like to see what works best on metal, wood, etc. Thanx.

__._,_.___

Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe

__,_._,___