[papercreters] role of lime in papercrete

I have readthe lime will waterproof paper crete is this correct or do I
still need to paint with something like drylock to get a good product
for siding an exciting house to implove, well better stated, insulate a
1925 craftsmen stle house. there is no insulation the thaught was to
use 12 papercrete bricks then add a stucco finish of 50/50 paper to
cement papercrete with lime added to it if it waterproof then paint
white with brown trim.

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[papercreters] Carpet Crete?

Has anyone ever heard of using used carpet a a reinforcement for
papercrete or ferro cement structures?
It is a bit heavy but is available free and it seems like it would
make a very strong wall or roof if embedded into a papercrete , fiber
adobe or ferrocement slurry..

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[papercreters] Re: Dome Roof Solution--Cheap? You have my interest.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Diana Bryan <dhbryan2001@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I got another letter and he said a 1/2 inch layer will be
twice as strong as most codes and cost 4.00 a foot with fiberglass and
2.00 with chicken wire. I was suprised it cost that much.
> --------
> Newbie here -- That cost looks high to me too. Is that materials
only or including labor?
>
>
>I don't know . I wish I had saved a truckload or 2 of the fabric I
gave or threw away in New England from textile mills I took down. I am
sure that there is a still tons of that stuff thrown away every day.

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[papercreters] bamboo- domes-

I was wondering if you coated bamboo with ferro cement or adobe if it
would last as I the stuff grow wild here and some of it is 30 feet
high and quite thick. Shorter material 3/4" thick is very common.
This winter I am going to plant a couple acres by transplanting the
root systems.
====================

bamboo has a long history in structural use, In Germany there is a
huge palladim center of it, like an area , and in several of the UK
earth building books like Appropriate Building Materials book- they
have chapters on using bamboo in many ways,, You can read this book,
a $33. purchase if imported from the UK,, online for free. it is a
long sorta funky url and sub urls to get to it but well worth it
for a 300 page book that is complete in all aspects of building
naturally.

I can post the links here and view it that way. I put this book on
my CDs as it is so hard to navigate the darn urls, but try.
--
Ms. Charmaine Taylor/ Taylor Publishing
www.dirtcheapbuilder.com www. papercrete.com
PO Box 375, Cutten CA 95534

http://nzdl.sadl.uleth.ca/cgi-bin/library?a=p&p=home&l=en&w=utf -8

To find the book "APPROPRIATE BUILDING MATERIALS" by Roland Stulz,
Kiran Mukerji 1993 see the link below.

If it WILL NOT open.. then

1. go to the library link:
http://nzdl.sadl.uleth.ca/cgi-bin/library?a=p&p=home&l=en&w=utf-8

2. then click on the>>> Humanity Development Library <<<< picture

3. USE THE SEARCH BAR- set it to "SECTION TITLES" << VERY
IMPORTANT the other options "chapters" or "entire books" will NOT
locate the book for some odd reason.

4. A long list of titles will pop up...SCROLL TO THE 2ND PAGE-- AND
SCROLL DOWN a bit -- YOU WILL SEE THIS LIST: the Appropriate
Building Materials BOOK- is about 8th on the list. [ may change if
more info is added to their site]

Appropriate building materials <<<<<<<<<< THIS IS IT THIS IS THE
COMPLETE LINK YOU CAN TRY TO PASTE INTO YOUR BROWSER.

BUT- may not work as the site needs you to "click through" to get to it.

http://nzdl.sadl.uleth.ca/cgi-bin/library?e=q-00000-00---off-0hdl--00-0--0-10-0---0--0prompt-10---4-----sti--0-1l--11-en-50---20-about-APPROPRIATE++--00-0-1-00-0-0-11-1
-0utfZz-8-00&a=d&c=hdl&srp=0&srn=0&cl=search&d=HASH70c81f6386a2600bdfdd3f

[use the blue links to expand the entire chapters/book to copy or
print, or read online. Best to download the entire book, and read at
your leisure.

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Re: [papercreters] Re: Dome Roof Solution--Cheap? You have my interest.

Thanks. I got another letter and he said a 1/2 inch layer will be twice as strong as most codes and cost 4.00 a foot with fiberglass and 2.00 with chicken wire. I was suprised it cost that much.
--------
Newbie here -- That cost looks high to me too. Is that materials only or including labor?

--- On Fri, 10/24/08, peddler8111 <fpcharnock@earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: peddler8111 <fpcharnock@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: Dome Roof Solution--Cheap? You have my interest.
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 12:13 AM
> > > >
> > >
> > You guys are on the right track. Lets go a step or
> two further.
> > Check out this site from our com padres at
> ferrocement.com.
> >
> http://ferrocement.com/bioFiber/y7-r1/biofiber_y7.1.en.html
> > They have experimental data on making walls and roofs
> using this latex
> > modified concrete and biofiber including burlap. I am
> planning a
> > greenhouse style arched building with a pvc pipe
> skeleton and this
> > burlap method over polystyrene insulation panels.
> After this thin
> > waterproof skin is in place I am debating using wire
> reinforced
> > papercrete to cover this structure until it is strong
> enough to
> > possibly cover it with soil. I get a thermally sound
> building and a
> > rounded deck surface or garden space back. I am
> trying to figure out
> > how to bond a wavy wire into the skin parallel to the
> long axis to
> > hang plant baskets to use the roof surface as garden
> space. You can
> > start the plants in the baskets or troughs and hang
> them out on the
> > wall when it gets warm enough.
> >
>
> Thanks. I got another letter and he said a 1/2 inch layer
> will be
> twice as strong as most codes and cost 4.00 a foot with
> fiberglass and
> 2.00 with chicken wire. I was suprised it cost that much.

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[papercreters] Re: Dome Roof Solution--Cheap? You have my interest.

> > >
> >
> You guys are on the right track. Lets go a step or two further.
> Check out this site from our com padres at ferrocement.com.
> http://ferrocement.com/bioFiber/y7-r1/biofiber_y7.1.en.html
> They have experimental data on making walls and roofs using this latex
> modified concrete and biofiber including burlap. I am planning a
> greenhouse style arched building with a pvc pipe skeleton and this
> burlap method over polystyrene insulation panels. After this thin
> waterproof skin is in place I am debating using wire reinforced
> papercrete to cover this structure until it is strong enough to
> possibly cover it with soil. I get a thermally sound building and a
> rounded deck surface or garden space back. I am trying to figure out
> how to bond a wavy wire into the skin parallel to the long axis to
> hang plant baskets to use the roof surface as garden space. You can
> start the plants in the baskets or troughs and hang them out on the
> wall when it gets warm enough.

I was wondering if you coated bamboo with ferro cement or adobe if it
would last as I the stuff grow wild here and some of it is 30 feet
high and quite thick. Shorter material 3/4" thick is very common.
This winter I am going to plant a couple acres by transplanting the
root systems.

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[papercreters] Re: Dome Roof Solution--Cheap? You have my interest.

> > >
> >
> You guys are on the right track. Lets go a step or two further.
> Check out this site from our com padres at ferrocement.com.
> http://ferrocement.com/bioFiber/y7-r1/biofiber_y7.1.en.html
> They have experimental data on making walls and roofs using this latex
> modified concrete and biofiber including burlap. I am planning a
> greenhouse style arched building with a pvc pipe skeleton and this
> burlap method over polystyrene insulation panels. After this thin
> waterproof skin is in place I am debating using wire reinforced
> papercrete to cover this structure until it is strong enough to
> possibly cover it with soil. I get a thermally sound building and a
> rounded deck surface or garden space back. I am trying to figure out
> how to bond a wavy wire into the skin parallel to the long axis to
> hang plant baskets to use the roof surface as garden space. You can
> start the plants in the baskets or troughs and hang them out on the
> wall when it gets warm enough.
>

Thanks. I got another letter and he said a 1/2 inch layer will be
twice as strong as most codes and cost 4.00 a foot with fiberglass and
2.00 with chicken wire. I was suprised it cost that much.

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