Monday, November 3, 2008

[papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

Hi:


I found a product called insulcoat and it makes incredible claims in
reducing solar radiation but said nothing about heat retention.Would
you direct me to more info?

Thanks

Sorry,after I hit send I found the link.

>
> > > substrate the link
> > > to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can
> > get
> > > it through ici
> > > paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for
> > my
> > > papercrete house
> > > to start next spring,once all the snows gone
> > lol.Iv
> > > been a jm painter
> > > for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks
> > > hauling stone for a
> > > landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives
> > > you some insite to
> > > this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they
> > > figure they are
> > > saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in
> > > northern alberta and it
> > > can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx
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[papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

Hi:


I found a product called insulcoat and it makes incredible claims in
reducing solar radiation but said nothing about heat retention.Would
you direct me to more info?

Thanks


> > > Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u
> > > want a good water
> > > proof coating there is a product called insualcoat
> > > is a water bourn
> > > product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating
> > ,and
> > > gives r24
> > > insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most
> > any
> > > substrate the link
> > > to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can
> > get
> > > it through ici
> > > paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for
> > my
> > > papercrete house
> > > to start next spring,once all the snows gone
> > lol.Iv
> > > been a jm painter
> > > for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks
> > > hauling stone for a
> > > landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives
> > > you some insite to
> > > this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they
> > > figure they are
> > > saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in
> > > northern alberta and it
> > > can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx
> > and
> > > have a great week.
> > >
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[papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "smt460" <smt460@...> wrote:
> Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u want a good water
> proof coating there is a product called insualcoat is a water bourn
> product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating ,and gives r24
> insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most any substrate the
> link to there page is www.envirocoat.com

Are you talking about:
http://dw1.dns77.com/envirocoat//exteriorproducts.html

If so, I could not find anything that supported the r24 insulative
factor. Only reference I found was:

"We don't make claims about specific energy savings if Liquid Ceramic®
is applied to your home or building, just as an insulation company
would not. However, our testing does show that two coats of Liquid
Ceramic® Exterior Wall Coating provides three times the amount of
thermal flow reduction, as measured in BTU's, as compared to two coats
of ordinary house paint."

Even without the R value, it looks like an excellent product for
coating papercrete as a water barrier. It has a breathability of 20
perms (allowing a large amount of water to escape as a vapor) with
good fire, mold, midlew and UV resistance characteristics. Down sides
I can see would be cost, they provide no estimates other than
"approximately 3 times the cost of conventional paint", which could
mean anywhere from $45 to $150 a gallon.

I would certainly be interested to know how it goes for you, please
post back when you have some applied.

- Ernie


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RE: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

Its on the outside ,on smooth wood siding and old
glass stucco it fills all the voids in the glass and
rock stucco ,two coats recamened.
--- Clair Schmidt <smt460@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi they recamend inside and outside this product
> also
> breaths,and can be tinted like normal paint,it has
> been on my friends house for five years now.
>
> --- Janoahsh <janoahsh@alaska.net> wrote:
>
> > Did you paint it inside or outside?
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > Janosh
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of smt460
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:45 PM
> > To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in
> > papercrete
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In papercreters@
> > <mailto:papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, "jayhbee50" <johnb50@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have readthe lime will waterproof paper crete
> is
> > this correct or do
> > I
> > > still need to paint with something like drylock
> to
> > get a good product
> > > for siding an exciting house to implove, well
> > better stated, insulate
> > a
> > > 1925 craftsmen stle house. there is no
> insulation
> > the thaught was to
> > > use 12 papercrete bricks then add a stucco
> finish
> > of 50/50 paper to
> > > cement papercrete with lime added to it if it
> > waterproof then paint
> > > white with brown trim.
> > >
> > Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u
> > want a good water
> > proof coating there is a product called insualcoat
> > is a water bourn
> > product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating
> ,and
> > gives r24
> > insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most
> any
> > substrate the link
> > to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can
> get
> > it through ici
> > paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for
> my
> > papercrete house
> > to start next spring,once all the snows gone
> lol.Iv
> > been a jm painter
> > for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks
> > hauling stone for a
> > landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives
> > you some insite to
> > this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they
> > figure they are
> > saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in
> > northern alberta and it
> > can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx
> and
> > have a great week.
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 -
> > Release Date: 11/2/2008
> > 9:51 AM
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

Hi they recamend inside and outside this product also
breaths,and can be tinted like normal paint,it has
been on my friends house for five years now.

--- Janoahsh <janoahsh@alaska.net> wrote:

> Did you paint it inside or outside?
>
> Thank You
>
> Janosh
>
> _____
>
> From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of smt460
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:45 PM
> To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in
> papercrete
>
>
>
> --- In papercreters@
> <mailto:papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "jayhbee50" <johnb50@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have readthe lime will waterproof paper crete is
> this correct or do
> I
> > still need to paint with something like drylock to
> get a good product
> > for siding an exciting house to implove, well
> better stated, insulate
> a
> > 1925 craftsmen stle house. there is no insulation
> the thaught was to
> > use 12 papercrete bricks then add a stucco finish
> of 50/50 paper to
> > cement papercrete with lime added to it if it
> waterproof then paint
> > white with brown trim.
> >
> Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u
> want a good water
> proof coating there is a product called insualcoat
> is a water bourn
> product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating ,and
> gives r24
> insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most any
> substrate the link
> to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can get
> it through ici
> paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for my
> papercrete house
> to start next spring,once all the snows gone lol.Iv
> been a jm painter
> for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks
> hauling stone for a
> landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives
> you some insite to
> this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they
> figure they are
> saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in
> northern alberta and it
> can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx and
> have a great week.
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 -
> Release Date: 11/2/2008
> 9:51 AM
>
>
>

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Sunday, November 2, 2008

RE: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

Did you paint it inside or outside?

Thank You

Janosh


From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smt460
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:45 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

 

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "jayhbee50" <johnb50@...> wrote:
>
> I have readthe lime will waterproof paper crete is this correct or do
I
> still need to paint with something like drylock to get a good product
> for siding an exciting house to implove, well better stated, insulate
a
> 1925 craftsmen stle house. there is no insulation the thaught was to
> use 12 papercrete bricks then add a stucco finish of 50/50 paper to
> cement papercrete with lime added to it if it waterproof then paint
> white with brown trim.
>
Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u want a good water
proof coating there is a product called insualcoat is a water bourn
product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating ,and gives r24
insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most any substrate the link
to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can get it through ici
paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for my papercrete house
to start next spring,once all the snows gone lol.Iv been a jm painter
for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks hauling stone for a
landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives you some insite to
this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they figure they are
saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in northern alberta and it
can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx and have a great week.

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[papercreters] Re: role of lime in papercrete

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "jayhbee50" <johnb50@...> wrote:
>
> I have readthe lime will waterproof paper crete is this correct or do
I
> still need to paint with something like drylock to get a good product
> for siding an exciting house to implove, well better stated, insulate
a
> 1925 craftsmen stle house. there is no insulation the thaught was to
> use 12 papercrete bricks then add a stucco finish of 50/50 paper to
> cement papercrete with lime added to it if it waterproof then paint
> white with brown trim.
>
Hi this is my first post so here it goes lol.If u want a good water
proof coating there is a product called insualcoat is a water bourn
product enviro frendly has a 160% strech rating ,and gives r24
insulating factor.Can be applyed to wood or most any substrate the link
to there page is www.envirocoat.com and you can get it through ici
paints or devoe coatings.I will be using this for my papercrete house
to start next spring,once all the snows gone lol.Iv been a jm painter
for 20 yrs and am now driving off road trucks hauling stone for a
landscaping supply company.Well i hope this gives you some insite to
this.I put this stuff on a friends house and they figure they are
saving 400-500$ a year on heating costs,were in northern alberta and it
can get to -45c for a week at a time or more.Thx and have a great week.


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