Wednesday, August 23, 2017

[papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



Hi Ruth, I also live on the Colorado River in Arizona, in Havasu.  Where are you? 



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Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



Hello Ruth 
My name is Murry Holley . I have a project going on in San Marcos Tx. I would be happy to discuss some of the problems I have been through if you like.

I think you should contact Barry Fuller. I do not think you will find anyone more knowledgeable and he is in Arizona. He does charge a fee for consulting. He was a great help in my research phase. He builds Tow mixers for sale. His website is papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper


Hope this helps.

Good Luck 
Murry Holley


On Thursday, August 17, 2017, 4:52:05 AM CDT, ruth ross dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

HI my name is Ruth and I live near the Colorado River in Arizona.  I was just getting started with papercrete information before I was involved in a very devastating auto collision.  Wanting now to build a aquatic rehab center for people with spinal injuries  (I am good but it took a while and I now know what we need).   I have been saving paper and making connections with people who will supply paper.  I need a tow mixer and expertise/experience.  It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".   I don't want to be left out of the loop before I can even get into it.  I have an acre and great water.  Buildings and a  GREAT Vision.  Papercrete is an important part of that vision.  Would anyone even remotely interested please contact me.   Ruth  dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com     I don't do facebook.  Very old school.


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Saturday, August 19, 2017

[papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



Ruth said " It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".  

Ruth....I am shocked so many people did NOT understand my announcement of retiring my personal BOOKSTORE ONLINE..nothing to do with all the experts closing down anything,  or closing this group etc.  

While I can do nothing about comprehension of what I wrote,  I MAY have a simple website soon  that will have  all the papercrete/adobe/cob/Rub-RSlate/Paracrete/etc  CDs and booklets available and online. 

It will be ready to view soon.

Ruth I emailed you directly with several  pieces of information on rub-r-slate, making it, using it, my results..and I have not heard back from you. So I am not sure if you come online often.

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Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing Eureka CA
https://www.facebook.com/dirtcheaphome/   <<<Updated availability  of Guides, 
CDs, Books from Papercrete.com on 
Facebook. see pricing

"Pleasure is a shadow, wealth is vanity, and power a pageant;  is ecstatic in enjoyment, perennial in frame, unlimited in space and indefinite in duration."
―Dewitt Clinton

 


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Friday, August 18, 2017

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available





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From: ruth ross dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com [p...
Date: Thu, Aug 17, 2017 2:52 AM
Subject:[papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available

 

HI my name is Ruth and I live near the Colorado River in Arizona.  I was just getting started with papercrete information before I was involved in a very devastating auto collision.  Wanting now to build a aquatic rehab center for people with spinal injuries  (I am good but it took a while and I now know what we need).   I have been saving paper and making connections with people who will supply paper.  I need a tow mixer and expertise/experience.  It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".   I don't want to be left out of the loop before I can even get into it.  I have an acre and great water.  Buildings and a  GREAT Vision.  Papercrete is an important part of that vision.  Would anyone even remotely interested please contact me.   Ruth  dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com     I don't do facebook.  Very old school.



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Re: [papercreters] Re: Pumping Papercrete



I suggest you look into a diaphragm mud pump.

They have a Briggs and Stratton type motor turning, through a built in reduction gearbox, a large crank that cycles a connecting rod up and down.

The bottom of the connecting rod is fixed to the center of an approx. 20" diameter reinforced rubber sheet diaphragm.

The pumping chamber is on the bottom side of the diaphragm and has an inlet and an outlet each running through flapping rubber one-way valves so that when the rod pulls up on the diaphragm it will suck in through the suction valve and when the rod pushes down on the diaphragm it will expell through the outlet valve.

It will pump sticks, leaves, sand, gravel, mud, and any other kind of debris that happens to be small enough to fit through the inlet hose strainer.

I have no doubt it will pump papercrete without hesitation.

We rented them from the local construction equipment rental company.

Dan

Dan     520-834-4176     I10 and Twin Peaks
On 8/17/2017 11:47 AM, john mcginnis maruadventurer@gmail.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
Fundamentals first.

What is the head rating of the pump?
How high are you pumping?

If the pump is rated at 6' head, and you are attempting 10' you are headed for failure even if its pure water.

if you laid the out pipe on the ground does the mix make it thru? You might need to rent a bucket lift.

Hope it helps.

McGinnis



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Thursday, August 17, 2017

[papercreters] Pumping papercrete

You can pump papercrete with a peristaltic pump made for concrete. They are fairly inexpensive to build yourself. Here is a brief video of mine. The one in this video cost me about $2500 to build and I sell these for $5500 to the local concrete guys. The ones from Monolithic cost about $10k and have more features than mine. There is also a Benron pump for $8500 that will work as well. The benron pumps are nice and have feed control at the gun too.

My pump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5_tyWnrqxw

Monolithic pump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUsRPPjSfpk

Benron Pump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3wl5VgLPk



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[papercreters] Re: Pumping Papercrete



A centrifugal pump, like your Honda trash pump can not move papercrete. The slurry is too viscous and will form air pockets. Pumping must be done with a positive displacement pump,
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3KWi6vAYFM

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[papercreters] Re: Pumping Papercrete



Fundamentals first.

What is the head rating of the pump?
How high are you pumping?

If the pump is rated at 6' head, and you are attempting 10' you are headed for failure even if its pure water.

if you laid the out pipe on the ground does the mix make it thru? You might need to rent a bucket lift.

Hope it helps.

McGinnis


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Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



Welcome Ruth,
Too far away but there are great people here.

I did FB and left too much drama.



Calle

From: ruth ross dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:52 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available

 

HI my name is Ruth and I live near the Colorado River in Arizona.  I was just getting started with papercrete information before I was involved in a very devastating auto collision.  Wanting now to build a aquatic rehab center for people with spinal injuries  (I am good but it took a while and I now know what we need).   I have been saving paper and making connections with people who will supply paper.  I need a tow mixer and expertise/experience.  It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".   I don't want to be left out of the loop before I can even get into it.  I have an acre and great water.  Buildings and a  GREAT Vision.  Papercrete is an important part of that vision.  Would anyone even remotely interested please contact me.   Ruth  dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com     I don't do facebook.  Very old school.




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We have not all retired.  I am doing papercrete in Texas and I have been here almost from the beginning, certainly from the beginning of the first papercrete group.  What do you want to know?

Kim


On 8/8/2017 4:42 PM, ruth ross dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
HI my name is Ruth and I live near the Colorado River in Arizona.  I was just getting started with papercrete information before I was involved in a very devastating auto collision.  Wanting now to build a aquatic rehab center for people with spinal injuries  (I am good but it took a while and I now know what we need).   I have been saving paper and making connections with people who will supply paper.  I need a tow mixer and expertise/experience.  It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".   I don't want to be left out of the loop before I can even get into it.  I have an acre and great water.  Buildings and a  GREAT Vision.  Papercrete is an important part of that vision.  Would anyone even remotely interested please contact me.   Ruth  dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com     I don't do facebook.  Very old school.


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Wednesday, August 16, 2017

[papercreters] Pumping Papercrete



Hello this is Murry in San Marcos TX

Does anyone have experience with pumping papercrete.


I have a 3" Honda Trash pump but have been unable to get it to pump the mix.


The mix is about 100 pounds paper, 10 gal sand, 4 gal clay and 2 sacks of cement and about 100 gal of water in a 160 gal tank.


Any suggestion is most appreciated

Thanks

Murry,Holley@yahoo.com




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Tuesday, August 15, 2017

[papercreters] Papercrete report- by Judith Williams [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from C. C. Visnesky included below]

Hi all...now that I am 'officially' retiredI am going to keep sharing great info on alternative building for free.

Today I wanted to share the write up Judith Williams did several years ago...she has some youtube videos on her  papercrete building you can look up.

​I could FILL this post with all the words..but will ATTACH her document .... if you can't access it, or yahoo does not upload it..PLEASE just email me, and I am glad to send it to you as a PDF.

I DO NOT keep, sell, rent anyone's email addy and NEVER have in 20 years online. So You get nothing further from me unless you ASK.

Judith Williams  papercrete video 1...there are several that pop up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HmCV777cw

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Charmaine Taylor/Publishing Eureka CA
https://www.facebook.com/dirtcheaphome/   <<<Updated availability  of Guides, 
CDs, Books from Papercrete.com on 
Facebook. see pricing

"Pleasure is a shadow, wealth is vanity, and power a pageant;  is ecstatic in enjoyment, perennial in frame, unlimited in space and indefinite in duration."
―Dewitt Clinton

 


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Tuesday, August 8, 2017

[papercreters] Re: Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



HI my name is Ruth and I live near the Colorado River in Arizona.  I was just getting started with papercrete information before I was involved in a very devastating auto collision.  Wanting now to build a aquatic rehab center for people with spinal injuries  (I am good but it took a while and I now know what we need).   I have been saving paper and making connections with people who will supply paper.  I need a tow mixer and expertise/experience.  It shocked me to find that that much needed experience is "retiring".   I don't want to be left out of the loop before I can even get into it.  I have an acre and great water.  Buildings and a  GREAT Vision.  Papercrete is an important part of that vision.  Would anyone even remotely interested please contact me.   Ruth  dr_ruth_ross@yahoo.com     I don't do facebook.  Very old school.


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Hi Charmaine,

Tried to click and find prices or some of the links are now blank.

After the fire all hopes of building has gone bye bye but your files look doable.

Sent to hubs but he doesn't have much time to read.

So many things look fascinating.
The Rub and Buff flooring and even roof tiles I love.

Now for the "Biggy" how much would the whole package cost? No time to decide, nor do we have much construction in the wilderness going on.

So would have to drive and stay 6 hours away as only 5000 live in 3,814,000 acres and most ranchers throw old fence posts in a pile and they stay there for life.

Thanks

The email went to Tom's not your email.



From: 'C. C. Visnesky' charmainertaylor@gmail.com [papercreters]
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 10:29 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Retiring Papercrete.com after 20 years

 

Hi Dan Clarke, yes I am no longer going to pay a small fortune to keep the site up for selling stuff. 

the LINK I had in the post HAD a way to view all that is available in detail..  no worries.   

here it is again...and yes my 'papercrete store' CLOSES at midnight  Tuesday Aug 8.

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​Just EMAIL me directly if you want a list, Ok?​ 

Charmaine
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[papercreters] Re: Retiring Papercrete.com after 20 years



Hi Dan Clarke, yes I am no longer going to pay a small fortune to keep the site up for selling stuff. 

the LINK I had in the post HAD a way to view all that is available in detail..  no worries.   

here it is again...and yes my 'papercrete store' CLOSES at midnight  Tuesday Aug 8.

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​Just EMAIL me directly if you want a list, Ok?​ 

Charmaine
​ Taylor


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[papercreters] Papercrete/Adobe/Rub-R-Slate Guides still available



Aha..to confirm I am closing MY active website which I have had since 1998 - www.papercrete.com  and moving it to a FB page

BUT will continue to be active in papercrete, respond to any emails, and keep available all the Resource Guides and hard- to find booklets  in future.

  The guy who bought my old site keeps THIS PAGE  below active on dirtcheapbuilder.com ..it lists what I still offer, but just available from ME.   http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com/Charmaine_Taylor.htm

​are offers many books and DVDs on stone building and his wilderness survival techniques...but we are not connected.​

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​JUST ask and I can send a PDF of all  items too.

​Interest in alt building waxes and wanes..but creative minded people who are not 'conventional thinkers' will always be experimenting!​


Charmaine

Charmaine Taylor/Publishing & Elk River Press
www.papercrete.com

"Pleasure is a shadow, wealth is vanity, and power a pageant; but knowledge is ecstatic in enjoyment, perennial in frame, unlimited in space and indefinite in duration."
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Hi,

Is the  papercrete.com  site to be taken down? 

How long do we have to gather information from it before we can't see all of it?

Thanks for your effort.

Dan
 

Dan     520-834-4176     I10 and Twin Peaks
On 8/6/2017 2:20 PM, 'C. C. Visnesky' charmainertaylor@gmail.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

​Hello all 'creators...well I tried to 'retire' in 2009..sold the bigger dirtcheapbuilder.com bookstore to a guy in MT..and kept my papercrete site with all the  Alt Building guides and CDs,  out of print/hard to find booklets on natural building going until right now.  So I am keeping the papercrete.com Domaine Name for now..but giving up an active website.

I am working (no where near done) on a Facebook page also 'papercrete.com' ..and people who want to find me will..so In case anyone asks..now you know.     https://www.facebook.com/dirtcheaphome/

I hate it when someone disappears..like FERNCO METALS whose shop burned down, so they just quit making Cinva Rams (from plans they got from me) and didn't tell anyone!!    I still get questions looking for them.     Not sure if they had no business insurance, or didn't save design/machoine tool files to recreate all the work they had done. I know there is still a strong market to buy ready made ones. I tried to buy the fernco name from them just to keep awareness, but the owner didn't respond.. I know the devastating fire and his age were factors.

 Anyway... hope all of you never stop playing with 'crete in some form!!  Thanks for the memories!

Charmaine
​Taylor​




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