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Wednesday, April 28, 2010

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Dumby me, I forgot to include the site for the chain mixer blade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxFj7h6Rc9Y

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[papercreters] Mixing blade idea

Although I said blade, it is not a blade, it is a chain. I believe this
design could be enlarged somewhat to use with a lawn mower type motor or
an electric motor. It's selling point it that it doesn't have to start
under stress, which means less work for the motor to get it up to speed.
I believe the length could be increased to 6" on each side of the shaft
for an overall length of 12".

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Re: [papercreters] Metal Studs was/ Using a lawnmower as a mixer

I just uploaded 8 photos "Spaceman's Dome" album, of us putting together the small dome at Judith's 1st PC Gathering. I don't know why they did not upload in order....but there it is!

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:

Yes, I do. The one we put together at Judith's is a pipe frame. Same math, different material. Several of my larger pipe frames have been to Burning Man, but I haven't yet. Maybe this year...
spaceman  All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.
On 4/28/2010 6:12 PM, Evelyn Vollmer wrote:
Spaceman makes these.......I believe. We put a small together last year at Judith's place.

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Re: [papercreters] Metal Studs was/ Using a lawnmower as a mixer

Yes, I do. The one we put together at Judith's is a pipe frame. Same math, different material. Several of my larger pipe frames have been to Burning Man, but I haven't yet. Maybe this year...

spaceman  All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.

On 4/28/2010 6:12 PM, Evelyn Vollmer wrote:

Spaceman makes these.......I believe. We put a small together last year at Judith's place.

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Re: [papercreters] Metal Studs was/ Using a lawnmower as a mixer

Big box stores like Lowes and Home Depot usually carry them, they are often cheaper at construction supply houses. Locally a store called "The Drywall Shop" has them for a decent price. Around here most construction supply houses will also sell to the public, but as you say the best price often goes to contractors, which is understandable since they buy the most.

http://starship-enterprises.net/Domes/DomeHouse/DomeHouse%20Home.html has a bit more information about my dome. Which photo on the group website? The picture on the home page shows the interior of my big dome at the top, and the small workshop dome at the bottom. Back when Slurry Guy was setting up the group I gave him permission to use any of my website's photos...

Reality - what a concept!

spaceman  All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information. http://starship-enterprises.net

On 4/28/2010 5:55 PM, Perry Way wrote:

I want to know more about the metal studs dome. I've seen the photo on the groups website and wondered how well that would work in reality. Where can someone buy metal studs, if not directly from manufacturers (I found a link to a manufacturer and their price was $3.00 per 8 foot stud. Seems cheep, but maybe that's "to the trade" pricing. Haven't seen metal studs at the local hardware store either.

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Re: [papercreters] Metal Studs was/ Using a lawnmower as a mixer

Spaceman makes these.......I believe. We put a small together last year at Judith's place.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Perry Way <perryway@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to know more about the metal studs dome. I've seen the photo on the groups website and wondered how well that would work in reality. Where can someone buy metal studs, if not directly from manufacturers (I found a link to a manufacturer and their price was $3.00 per 8 foot stud. Seems cheep, but maybe that's "to the trade" pricing. Haven't seen metal studs at the local hardware store either.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:
Well, I moved into it in October of that year, and completed the rear wall in November. I never got around to sealing it, kept adding more pc for a couple of years off and on. Had a few workshops in it where we put together a smaller dome. In '05 I was on a photo expedition in the Colorado Rockies when a freak storm settled in and dumped about 50,000 pounds of water into the rear room's unsealed 24" thick flat roof. Naturally it was not designed for that kind of weight and it collapsed. The dome itself didn't even notice the weight. When I got home from Colorado I closed off the back room from the main dome and put the roof repair on the back burner. A couple of years after that I had parental care duties and moved so I could take care of them. Both parents passed on in the spring of '08 and I spent the next months emptying their house and getting it ready for sale. During that time I was burglarized five times and all my tools and electronics were taken, along with assorted building materials. Moved back here in Feb'09, the big dome was pretty much full of furniture and other assorted stuff so I moved into another small dome that I had already started. It's about 3/4 done and will maybe get finished sometime this year, between other projects.

The big dome was partially covered with papercrete and partially with just paper pulp with the intent to eventually cover the paper with a papercrete layer. I live in the land of mañana which does not mean tomorrow, but means NOT NOW, and that did not happen (yet). In the interim the papercrete is doing fine, the just paper parts show some effect from the monsoon seasons. So the short answer is no, I have not finished it.

The main reason I chose metal studs is that it is impossible to get straight wood studs here, the atmosphere sucks the moisture out of them and they warp and chip. For a geodesic dome it's important to have straight components for ease of assembly. I soon discovered many things I like, you can pretty much build a dome with tin snips and a screw gun. Metal studs are light, strong, and versatile. Out here in the desert they are cheaper than wood.
spaceman  All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.
On 4/28/2010 9:52 AM, Ron Richter wrote:

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:

Thanks Spaceman,
I was looking through your dome site (again) and see the end is in 2002. Have you finished the dome? Can you give an eight year update?

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Chinese herbals for the Western Mind
www.ozbotanicals.com
Skype~eve8mon

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Re: [papercreters] Metal Studs was/ Using a lawnmower as a mixer

I want to know more about the metal studs dome. I've seen the photo on the groups website and wondered how well that would work in reality. Where can someone buy metal studs, if not directly from manufacturers (I found a link to a manufacturer and their price was $3.00 per 8 foot stud. Seems cheep, but maybe that's "to the trade" pricing. Haven't seen metal studs at the local hardware store either.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:

Well, I moved into it in October of that year, and completed the rear wall in November. I never got around to sealing it, kept adding more pc for a couple of years off and on. Had a few workshops in it where we put together a smaller dome. In '05 I was on a photo expedition in the Colorado Rockies when a freak storm settled in and dumped about 50,000 pounds of water into the rear room's unsealed 24" thick flat roof. Naturally it was not designed for that kind of weight and it collapsed. The dome itself didn't even notice the weight. When I got home from Colorado I closed off the back room from the main dome and put the roof repair on the back burner. A couple of years after that I had parental care duties and moved so I could take care of them. Both parents passed on in the spring of '08 and I spent the next months emptying their house and getting it ready for sale. During that time I was burglarized five times and all my tools and electronics were taken, along with assorted building materials. Moved back here in Feb'09, the big dome was pretty much full of furniture and other assorted stuff so I moved into another small dome that I had already started. It's about 3/4 done and will maybe get finished sometime this year, between other projects.

The big dome was partially covered with papercrete and partially with just paper pulp with the intent to eventually cover the paper with a papercrete layer. I live in the land of mañana which does not mean tomorrow, but means NOT NOW, and that did not happen (yet). In the interim the papercrete is doing fine, the just paper parts show some effect from the monsoon seasons. So the short answer is no, I have not finished it.

The main reason I chose metal studs is that it is impossible to get straight wood studs here, the atmosphere sucks the moisture out of them and they warp and chip. For a geodesic dome it's important to have straight components for ease of assembly. I soon discovered many things I like, you can pretty much build a dome with tin snips and a screw gun. Metal studs are light, strong, and versatile. Out here in the desert they are cheaper than wood.
spaceman  All opinions expressed or implied are subject to change without notice upon receipt of new information.
On 4/28/2010 9:52 AM, Ron Richter wrote:

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Spaceman <Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net> wrote:

Thanks Spaceman,
I was looking through your dome site (again) and see the end is in 2002. Have you finished the dome? Can you give an eight year update?

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