Saturday, May 1, 2010

[papercreters] Re: Source for pumice

Scoria...have the same characteristics as pumice? color is irrelevant to me

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@...> wrote:
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> I am still pumice-less here in NM. The plant I used to get it from has a lawsuit pending and there is no way to know when or if it will be open again. I got some perlite but it is too fine a texture. I am using it anyway but next time I will get more coarse stuff. I'm sorry I don;t have a good answer for you about where to get pumice. If you go online and google perlite you may find a source near you. There is the raw perlite that is available in different grades and the expanded perlite which is what you see in potting soil. I have not tried the expanded but I did try grinding up a large Styrofoam block and it mainly floated on top of the mix. I can imagine that expanded perlite would do the same. There is another form of pumice called scoria which is dark red in color and is used on the roads in winter. I can get that at the gravel yard and plan to get some soon. I especially want to put it into the mix I use for the floor.
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[papercreters] Re: Source for pumice

I've not used it for floors but I have used it in combination with sack
ready mix concrete, I just add pulped paper to my concrete mixture and
mix it in a regular concrete mixer. I don't remember the amount of paper
I added to the mix but it turned out well and saved me having to use
more just plain concrete, I figured I saved about 2 bags of concrete per
every 2'x8' pour, and at $4.00 a bag that can save a lot of money on a
16'x42' patio pour. The patio is covered but it does still get wet when
it blows rain under the cover and I've seen no different effect on the
paper pulped concrete than the regular concrete, only thing I can see
different is the texture of the paper pulp concrete is courser and I
like it better because I'm making the pours look like stones and I like
the rougher texture it provides.

BTB


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Tell us how it goes.
Calle
-----Original Message-----
From: JUDITH WILLIAMS williams_judith@...
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:35:13
To: papercreters papercreterspapercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Source for pumice


I haven't used papercrete for flooring yet but it seems to me that
someone mentioned having done it so I thought I would try. What I plan
to do is lay down a thick layer of papercrete and then go over it with a
2 to 4 inch thick layer of earthen floor material. I think it will do a
lot to insulate the floor.


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Re: [papercreters] Source for pumice



Tell us how it goes.
Calle


From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:35:13 -0600
To: papercreters papercreters<papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Source for pumice

 

I haven't used papercrete for flooring yet but it seems to me that someone mentioned having done it so I thought I would try. What I plan to do is lay down a thick layer of papercrete and then go over it with a 2 to 4 inch thick layer of earthen floor material. I think it will do a lot to insulate the floor.



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RE: [papercreters] Source for pumice



I haven't used papercrete for flooring yet but it seems to me that someone mentioned having done it so I thought I would try. What I plan to do is lay down a thick layer of papercrete and then go over it with a 2 to 4 inch thick layer of earthen floor material. I think it will do a lot to insulate the floor.


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Re: [papercreters] Source for pumice



You use papercrete for flooring? Explain the difference and how it stands up to wear and tear.

Calle


From: JUDITH WILLIAMS <williams_judith@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:24:15 -0600
To: papercreters papercreters<papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Source for pumice

 

I am still pumice-less here in NM. The plant I used to get it from has a lawsuit pending and there is no way to know when or if it will be open again. I got some perlite but it is too fine a texture. I am using it anyway but next time I will get more coarse stuff. I'm sorry I don;t have a good answer for you about where to get pumice. If you go online and google perlite you may find a source near you. There is the raw perlite that is available in different grades and the expanded perlite which is what you see in potting soil. I have not tried the expanded but I did try grinding up a large Styrofoam block and it mainly floated on top of the mix. I can imagine that expanded perlite would do the same. There is another form of pumice called scoria which is dark red in color and is used on the roads in winter. I can get that at the gravel yard and plan to get some soon. I especially want to put it into the mix I use for the floor.



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I am still pumice-less here in NM. The plant I used to get it from has a lawsuit pending and there is no way to know when or if it will be open again. I got some perlite but it is too fine a texture. I am using it anyway but next time I will get more coarse stuff. I'm sorry I don;t have a good answer for you about where to get pumice. If you go online and google perlite you may find a source near you. There is the raw perlite that is available in different grades and the expanded perlite which is what you see in potting soil. I have not tried the expanded but I did try grinding up a large Styrofoam block and it mainly floated on top of the mix. I can imagine that expanded perlite would do the same. There is another form of pumice called scoria which is dark red in color and is used on the roads in winter. I can get that at the gravel yard and plan to get some soon. I especially want to put it into the mix I use for the floor.


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[papercreters] Source for pumice

I like the properties of pumice fines mentioned by (Judith?) in her towmixer youtube, but can't seem to find a supplier (bulk or otherwise) here in Austin, TX. Anyone know where I can get this stuff? Or another material with similar properties (lighter than mix, prevents shrinkage, less thermal mass than sand)?


Thanks in advance

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