Saturday, January 23, 2010

[papercreters] Hammer milled paper?

Joel, I like the idea of paper flour. What sort of business has that? (Is it a by-product?) DK



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Friday, January 22, 2010

[papercreters] Fire retardant

I was watching an episode of holmes on homes and they were using a green insulation made from old blue jeans that was soaked in a boric acid solution then allowed to dry. They stated that no matter how many times it where to get wet then dry it would never mold and would not catch fire. That termites, mice, rats, roof rats ect. find it an unsuitable living environment and would not every live in this home.

This sounds like a win win for papercreters. Does anyone know or have an educated guess as to what the boric acid solution needs to be to be effective?

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Re: [papercreters] Re: Just a little tidbit of information



Sounds good Bob.  I would make sure neither of the holders is sleepy or distractable.  It could get exciting otherwise. 
I too, am planning my second towmixer being a stationary one.  If set up right near (or in) the construction site then a trash pump can get it to the proper portion of the wall where it is needed.  My first one died near the end of last summer and over the Christmas break I disassembled it to find bearings shot and the bowl full of oil and water.  Must have had a leaky seal at the top of the column over the last 3 years of use.
Ron



From: countryatheartok <criswells.ok@sbcglobal.net>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 5:02:06 PM
Subject: [papercreters] Re: Just a little tidbit of information

 

Ron I just bought the Two Man Auger shown below. I'm going to mount it over a 200 Gal Water Tank, on two rails that will allow me to move the auger from side to side or lock in the center. I may use the auger and I may just install a shaft with a chopper blade on the bottom or a series of chopper blades up and down the shaft. I'm going to mount the tank on a two wheel trailer made from the front axle of a Old Dodge Pick-up truck. I'll be able to move it from place to place without the need to pull it around to pulp paper.  I probably will not mix papercrete in it at all, I'll just use it to pulp paper and cardboard, then dump or dip the pulp onto a screen and catch the water and reuse as much as possible. I'll then put the wet drained pulp into my mixer and add cement while mixing, after a time I'll add clay or clay and sand.

Two Man Auger


--- In papercreters@ yahoogroups. com, Ron Richter <ronerichter@ ...> wrote:

 Bob,
 Even though I don't shred my paper I do the same thing. In the kitchen are 2 trash cans one for NOT PAPER the other for PAPER. In the paper bin one will find discarded flyers, magazines, old books, egg cartons, and any soft paper (paper towels, tissues). Out in the woodshed is the box depository and newspaper. There also, is where the neighbors drop off prize bundles of newspaper or catalogs and such. 
I cut all glued magazine backs off on the bandsaw (National Geographic (have staples too) and big catalogs) because they will wrap around the leading edge of the blade and reduce the effective cutting power. When this happens in a tow mixer you have to back up frequently, but they still wrap up the leading edge of the blade.
 Ron
 
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> Bob Wrote: Would like to know if anyone else has though of using this hodge podge of recyclable goods.
> BTB
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Re: [papercreters] Re: Just a little tidbit of information



This is a superb idea.  I can see this setup more friendly in some situations due to portability, but I especially like the idea about draining the wet pulp and mixing it with cement.  I am thinking this would allow for faster forms, which translates to being done more quickly with your project.



On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:02 PM, countryatheartok <criswells.ok@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

Ron I just bought the Two Man Auger shown below. I'm going to mount it over a 200 Gal Water Tank, on two rails that will allow me to move the auger from side to side or lock in the center. I may use the auger and I may just install a shaft with a chopper blade on the bottom or a series of chopper blades up and down the shaft. I'm going to mount the tank on a two wheel trailer made from the front axle of a Old Dodge Pick-up truck. I'll be able to move it from place to place without the need to pull it around to pulp paper.  I probably will not mix papercrete in it at all, I'll just use it to pulp paper and cardboard, then dump or dip the pulp onto a screen and catch the water and reuse as much as possible. I'll then put the wet drained pulp into my mixer and add cement while mixing, after a time I'll add clay or clay and sand.


--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Ron Richter <ronerichter@...> wrote:

 Bob,
 Even though I don't shred my paper I do the same thing. In the kitchen are 2 trash cans one for NOT PAPER the other for PAPER. In the paper bin one will find discarded flyers, magazines, old books, egg cartons, and any soft paper (paper towels, tissues). Out in the woodshed is the box depository and newspaper. There also, is where the neighbors drop off prize bundles of newspaper or catalogs and such. 
I cut all glued magazine backs off on the bandsaw (National Geographic (have staples too) and big catalogs) because they will wrap around the leading edge of the blade and reduce the effective cutting power. When this happens in a tow mixer you have to back up frequently, but they still wrap up the leading edge of the blade.
 Ron
 



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[papercreters] Re: Just a little tidbit of information



Ron I just bought the Two Man Auger shown below. I'm going to mount it over a 200 Gal Water Tank, on two rails that will allow me to move the auger from side to side or lock in the center. I may use the auger and I may just install a shaft with a chopper blade on the bottom or a series of chopper blades up and down the shaft. I'm going to mount the tank on a two wheel trailer made from the front axle of a Old Dodge Pick-up truck. I'll be able to move it from place to place without the need to pull it around to pulp paper.  I probably will not mix papercrete in it at all, I'll just use it to pulp paper and cardboard, then dump or dip the pulp onto a screen and catch the water and reuse as much as possible. I'll then put the wet drained pulp into my mixer and add cement while mixing, after a time I'll add clay or clay and sand.

Two Man Auger


--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Ron Richter <ronerichter@...> wrote:

 Bob,
 Even though I don't shred my paper I do the same thing. In the kitchen are 2 trash cans one for NOT PAPER the other for PAPER. In the paper bin one will find discarded flyers, magazines, old books, egg cartons, and any soft paper (paper towels, tissues). Out in the woodshed is the box depository and newspaper. There also, is where the neighbors drop off prize bundles of newspaper or catalogs and such. 
I cut all glued magazine backs off on the bandsaw (National Geographic (have staples too) and big catalogs) because they will wrap around the leading edge of the blade and reduce the effective cutting power. When this happens in a tow mixer you have to back up frequently, but they still wrap up the leading edge of the blade.
 Ron
 
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Bob Wrote: Would like to know if anyone else has though of using this hodge podge of recyclable goods.
> BTB
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Re: [papercreters] Just a little tidbit of information



Bob,
Even though I don't shred my paper I do the same thing.  In the kitchen are 2 trash cans one for NOT PAPER the other for PAPER.  In the paper bin one will find discarded flyers, magazines, old books, egg cartons, and any soft paper (paper towels, tissues).  Out in the woodshed is the box depository and newspaper.  There also, is where the neighbors drop off prize  bundles of newspaper or catalogs and such. 
I cut all glued magazine backs off on the bandsaw (National Geographic (have staples too) and big catalogs) because they will wrap around the leading edge of the blade and reduce the effective cutting power.  When this happens in a tow mixer you have to back up frequently, but they still wrap up the leading edge of the blade.
Ron


Bob Wrote:
Would like to know if anyone else has though of using this hodge podge of  recyclable goods.

BTB



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[papercreters] Re: Just a little tidbit of information



I don't have a towmixer (nor do I want one) but I can shred in all kinds of weather (12" snow on the ground comes to mind) any time of day or night, while I'm setting by the fireplace and watching TV. The below is an example of my shredded cardboard. A little bit of water and a short mix (say 2 min max) will produce an oatmeal looking pulp, just add cement, sand or clay or both and your good to go.

cardboard samples006

Three Gals Wet Pulp

pulp after water added and before cement, sand and or clay.


--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "allan.buch" <ab.7470@...> wrote:

 Why do you shred paper? I have build a towmixer and i can put almost anything in it(cardboard boxes and whole newspapers) without shredding it so it seems like a waist of time to shred the paper?
 
About the strength of the papercrete, i would be nice to see some test of pc made from different kind of paper/cardboard.
 



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