Sunday, January 20, 2008

[papercreters] Re: Inexperienced newbie

What have the indigenous people typically built with in the past?

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Betsy Boeve <elizabethboeve@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, this whole world of fibercrete, ferrocement is new to me.
I've built several homes here...all are rebar/cement block. Since I
live in the mountains, I wouldn't really consider this a tropical
climate. This time of the year is dry season. From Jan. through
May/June we don't really get any rain. So, drying isn't really an
issue, and neither is insulation. In my own home, during rainy
season, I use dehumidifiers. The application I envision is low cost
housing for indigenous people here. The size of the structure would
be no more than 15'x15'. After spending lots of time researching the
idea of cutting down on paper trash and the relative expense of pc,
it sounded like a good marriage. I had thought that sealing the
outside of the structure with a good latex/acrylic would do...now,
not so sure.
>
> Thanks to all for responding.
>
> Betsy
>
> slurryguy <slurryguy@...> wrote:
> Hello Betsy, Welcome.
>
> Whether or not papercrete makes sense for your situation depends
not
> only on your climate, but what your are planning to build and how
it
> will be used.
>
> While I've never traveled to a tropical climate, my understanding
is
> that it is particularly rare to build a well insulated structure.
> Insulation simply isn't needed much.
>
> I have little doubt that papercrete might have some effective uses,
> even in a humid climate, but I am skeptical about relying on it as
a
> primary building material. I have been on a mission to personally
> track down every papercrete structure that has been built and
> document it the best I can. None that I have found were built in a
> climate that approximates yours.
>
> There are methods, however, where it might be possible to use
> papercrete effectively. The attention to detail would be extremely
> important. Techniques that many people on this list would consider
> backward would need to be applied. For example, vapor barriers
would
> need to be applied on the exterior surfaces, and the walls would
need
> to be allowed to breathe on the inside of the structure. This is
> opposite of conventional construction practices in temperate and
> arctic climates. Extraordinarily reliable dehumidification of the
> interior atmosphere would be a must. It would not be trivial effort
> to make it work properly. With the alternatives that are avilable
to
> you, I'm not certain that it makes sense, but I may not completely
> understand your situation.
>
> Please answer a few questions:
>
> Can you please describe the structure you'd like to build?
>
> What will the structure be used for?
>
> What will be required in the way of heating/cooling/ventilating the
> building?
>
> What is your past construction experience? What have you bilt
before?
>
> --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Betsy Boeve"
> <elizabethboeve@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone. I've been lurking around reading all your posts.
> > Great info and imaginations here!
> >
> > I live in the mountains of Panama, about 4500', and we get rain
at
> > least 6 months of the year. Of course, my question is how well
> will PC
> > hold up under this huge amount of humidity? I've got some
projects
> in
> > mind, even have a huge load of paper ready, but should I even
start
> > something?
> >
> > Betsy in Volcan, Chiriqui, Panama
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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