Friday, February 27, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?



Thankyou for that Marthe- i have been waiting months to use my papercrete pots! 

 cement chemistry is interesting and not necessarily intuitive. I love the Fairy garden stuff- beautiful!

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Marthe Hook marthehook@hotmail.ca [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I' vw made many plnaters and pots formpaercrete and planted inthem within a week. NO problems. The newspaer does much to reduce alkalinity. Adding latex paint .a samll amount ..20z bottle for a small batch of crete for two pots. - helps with iresiliency as well as reducing alkalinity quickly.

Marthe   Website fairygarden.ca     DIY Blog   thefairygaren.ca   blog has a papercrete post

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:06:16 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Sorry I guess what I sent takes time to dry.

Find some blue plastic cattle lick tubs for free and use them till your pots dry.


Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:59 AM
Subject: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Hi,

I am preparing to make a few garden pots from papercrete. I just realise for this time it takes too long until they cure. Could you recommend something similar that would be usable within a few days?







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[papercreters] Re: Making papercrete really waterproof



The matter of calcium chloride: CaCl is much more reactive than NaCl. Hence the the warning label. Its not explosive, but admixtures that would have neutral reactions in the presence of NaCl may not in the presence of CaCl. Probably the most common reaction would be precipitates.

Waterproofing: There are quite a few paints that would work quite well. The only problem being the cost. The other issue is papercrete to a certain extent needs to breathe. Sealing it up completely might lead to issues.

Planter pots: I use simple latex paint on the inside. You still might some alkaline bleed but it will be greatly reduced.




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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



For timbercrete you use wood shavings instead of paper. In Australia they are building houses with timbercrete blocks.

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Posted by: gd@moworx.com



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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Hi,

i don't know why the warning was there but it did say 'warning' as if it had something...that required a warning? The only thing i could think of was maybe the chloride might interact badly with a metal armature but that's a guess? sodium chloride in seawater is bane of ferrocement boatbuilding from what i have read- i am not a chemist so not sure about that one ( i did notice that in the US, potting soil has no warning where in Australia the warning on the bag makes me afraid to open the stuff! Maybe different rulebooks in different countries?)

cheers, eo

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

What is timbercrete?

Calle

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From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Hi Eo,
thanks for your information.

Most of the stuff is not available here in Europe but maybe I can have it shipped over

What does that mean:

"it does have a warning that it 'contains calcium chloride"

I use CaCl2 for timbercrete. Not sure if it would shorten the curing time for papercrete.

But I was not aware that we should be warned about it.

Cheers
S.





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Posted by: eo greensticks <eogreensticks@gmail.com>



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Thursday, February 26, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



What is timbercrete?

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:12 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Hi Eo,
thanks for your information.

Most of the stuff is not available here in Europe but maybe I can have it shipped over

What does that mean:

"it does have a warning that it 'contains calcium chloride"

I use CaCl2 for timbercrete. Not sure if it would shorten the curing time for papercrete.

But I was not aware that we should be warned about it.

Cheers
S.




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Monday, February 23, 2015

[papercreters] Mason Greenstar blox recipe



Hi all,


Does anyone knows recipe of Mason Greenstar blox? I am really interesting to know mixture of cellulose and cement and other additives. What's in additives? please help me if someone knows it?




Thanks.

Tsogtoo




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Sunday, February 22, 2015

RE: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?



I' vw made many plnaters and pots formpaercrete and planted inthem within a week. NO problems. The newspaer does much to reduce alkalinity. Adding latex paint .a samll amount ..20z bottle for a small batch of crete for two pots. - helps with iresiliency as well as reducing alkalinity quickly.

Marthe   Website fairygarden.ca     DIY Blog   thefairygaren.ca   blog has a papercrete post

To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:06:16 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Sorry I guess what I sent takes time to dry.

Find some blue plastic cattle lick tubs for free and use them till your pots dry.


Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: gd@moworx.com [papercreters]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:59 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Fast alternative to papercrete?

 

Hi,

I am preparing to make a few garden pots from papercrete. I just realise for this time it takes too long until they cure. Could you recommend something similar that would be usable within a few days?






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Posted by: Marthe Hook <marthehook@hotmail.ca>



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