Friday, February 13, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Someone got back to me when we were discussing sealers.

The companies do not extend the warranted coverage to any surface.

Calle 

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From: Murry Holley murry.holley@yahoo.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:32 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Hello:)
Looks like there have been problems with the crystalline waterproofing & papercrete. 

I am doing an exterior papercrete wall with a color in a skim coat of papercrete. Thoroseal has two types of sealer, one is white that is cement based. The other is a clear sealer. I guess it is like Prime-a-Pell. Has anyone had any experience with the Thoroseal products with papercrete?

Thanks
Murry
San Marcos,TX

From: "valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Okay so it has to go on certain surfaces to be covered?

We do have a city home to renovate and would use it on basement walls and a floor. But. Have written and ask about prepainted floors.

Thanks for your input.

Calle

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From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:43 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Greetings,

The warranty didn't hold with an alternative building product under it.  We only bought one can to test it, so no big deal at the time.  This was about a decade ago and things change, but it flaked off in the Texas sun.  
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/29/2015 3:29 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
So the 10 year warranty is a joke?

Calle

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From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper
 





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Re: [papercreters] Mortar for a temporary brick structure?



Do a test stack.

Calle

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From: john mcginnis maruadventurer@gmail.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:32 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Mortar for a temporary brick structure?

 

Ok. Yes, brick and temporary are not very inclusive as a building method. But I have lots of free bricks to work with. Nor will this construction be used for human habitation.

Has anyone had any experience using papercrete as a mortar mix for brick? Something that might permit one to tear the structure and reclaim the bricks with less bother than using regular mortar mix?

I am thinking along the lines of pulp, sand and just a bit of lime for cohesion.

Thx.

JohnMc




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Thursday, February 12, 2015

[papercreters] Mortar for a temporary brick structure?



Ok. Yes, brick and temporary are not very inclusive as a building method. But I have lots of free bricks to work with. Nor will this construction be used for human habitation.

Has anyone had any experience using papercrete as a mortar mix for brick? Something that might permit one to tear the structure and reclaim the bricks with less bother than using regular mortar mix?

I am thinking along the lines of pulp, sand and just a bit of lime for cohesion.

Thx.

JohnMc


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Tuesday, February 10, 2015

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Monday, February 9, 2015

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Thursday, February 5, 2015

[papercreters] Re: Making papercrete really waterproof



After doing so much research into waterproofing it struck me like lightning today.

In my former life I was a hobby boat builder in Australia and boats have to be waterproof.

We just put a few coating of exoxy resin on the hull which is what most wooden boat builders do.

Would there be any reason why it should not work when I put epoxy on the inside of a papercrete pot which will be filled with water all the time. For water lilies.

 

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Tuesday, February 3, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Hello:)
Looks like there have been problems with the crystalline waterproofing & papercrete. 

I am doing an exterior papercrete wall with a color in a skim coat of papercrete. Thoroseal has two types of sealer, one is white that is cement based. The other is a clear sealer. I guess it is like Prime-a-Pell. Has anyone had any experience with the Thoroseal products with papercrete?

Thanks
Murry
San Marcos,TX

From: "valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters]" <papercreters@yahoogroups.com>
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Okay so it has to go on certain surfaces to be covered?

We do have a city home to renovate and would use it on basement walls and a floor. But. Have written and ask about prepainted floors.

Thanks for your input.

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.


From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:43 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Greetings,

The warranty didn't hold with an alternative building product under it.  We only bought one can to test it, so no big deal at the time.  This was about a decade ago and things change, but it flaked off in the Texas sun.  
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/29/2015 3:29 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
So the 10 year warranty is a joke?

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 
Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper
 





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