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Saturday, September 29, 2007

Re: [papercreters] New Member Intro

Thanks for the welcome, Carol. I'll have to take new ones. Everything I have is more a picture of a horse and maybe a piece of the shelter in the background.
Clarissa

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Welcome to the group. Pictures of your alternative structures for your horses? :o)

Carol

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Clarissa
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[papercreters] Re: Papercrete Concrete Form Blocks

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "Janoahsh" <janoahsh@...> wrote:
To make the papercrete form blocks I pour papercrete into the
horizontal mold
3" thick and then poke in 9" pieces of chain link fence wire standing
uprite. The wire comes in a zig zag pattern and it dries into the
papercrete side. I then pour the hi mass side concrete or earth
plaster and push the exposed wires from the papercrete block into the
setting Hi Thermal Mass side. This gives me a papercrete exterior and
a plastered or concrete hi thermal storing wall inside. I do use
vernicle re bars in the middle (32" OC) and a 1/2" horizontal bar every
4' (2 in an 8' wall). The result is 9" of insulation outside and a 3"
high thermal mass inside. My homes already use insulated slab floors
with pex tubing for radiant heat. I either stucco or side the outside
for looks. I have had good luck with just painting the Stucco and have
not had any water problems. I build in North Dakota and Arizona.

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Re: [papercreters] New Member Intro

Welcome, Clarissa! You must talk to Joyce, who is building papercrete domes for her Shetland stallions!

ElfN

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:20 PM

Subject: [papercreters] New Member Intro

Hello Everyone,
I have tons of things to learn and am very excited to have found a group that has accomplished so much and embodies so much experience. I've experimented with some alternative structures for our horses and I was a considerable source of amusement to the local agricultural community until they saw that my structures were still standing after a round of 60mph winds and the second round. While this was a far cry from a hurricane, I was very proud of my work. So far, we can safely house 10 horses for about $2,000. and the structures are portable (not taxable). I acquire 20 poly grain bags each week due to the horses and I have always been annoyed that there was no way to recycle them. Then I discovered bagged earth walls and am experimenting away...
None of this research and experimenting though, helped me reach my goal of living in a sustainable home and every month there is another round of $300. utility bills. I decided that I did't want to wait forever and that, care taking for 20 creatures and an elderly mom probably would not leave me much time to build that perfect home. Our area frowns on anything alternative, as well. We have finally located and begun negotiating to purchase an already started papercrete home in NM. There is enough of a house to live in while I do all the horse related (fence, barn, storage) building and even a papercrete workshop.
I am not always good at technical things and am subject to occasional blond moments but I can usually understand something after I've plowed through it a few times.
I'm looking forward to reading and learning and thank you all in advance. I doubt that I'll have a whole lot to contribute but I'm sure to have a lot of questions.
Clarissa

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Re: [papercreters] New Member Intro

Welcome to the group. Pictures of your alternative structures for your horses? :o)

Carol

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[papercreters] New Member Intro

Hello Everyone,
I have tons of things to learn and am very excited to have found a group that has accomplished so much and embodies so much experience. I've experimented with some alternative structures for our horses and I was a considerable source of amusement to the local agricultural community until they saw that my structures were still standing after a round of 60mph winds and the second round. While this was a far cry from a hurricane, I was very proud of my work. So far, we can safely house 10 horses for about $2,000. and the structures are portable (not taxable). I acquire 20 poly grain bags each week due to the horses and I have always been annoyed that there was no way to recycle them. Then I discovered bagged earth walls and am experimenting away...
None of this research and experimenting though, helped me reach my goal of living in a sustainable home and every month there is another round of $300. utility bills. I decided that I didn't want to wait forever and that, care taking for 20 creatures and an elderly mom probably would not leave me much time to build that perfect home. Our area frowns on anything alternative, as well. We have finally located and begun negotiating to purchase an already started papercrete home in NM. There is enough of a house to live in while I do all the horse related (fence, barn, storage) building and even a papercrete workshop.
I am not always good at technical things and am subject to occasional blond moments but I can usually understand something after I've plowed through it a few times.
I'm looking forward to reading and learning and thank you all in advance. I doubt that I'll have a whole lot to contribute but I'm sure to have a lot of questions.
Clarissa

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[papercreters] Re: rollers for stationary mixer

Lol love the seat seems anytime I try to kick back near my mixer I get
pced oh well. Now about that tire to tire idea most excellent but
PLEASE put a fender on the mixer wheel if it blows it could go anywhere
it wants to. Your sitting in a real good targeting area, as for the
none drive wheel blocking it front and back will keep from rolling if
you have a lockup. You could use a short 2 x 4 nailed to the 4 x 4 with
another one on top nailed to the first 2 x 4 nice and snug up against
the tire as you go up. ? Wheres the picture of your blade the blade is
everything as far as the mixers goes. This might seem like mothering
but if not for just dumb luck of me never being in the way of something
going wrong. I have not been caught in the middle of something bad well
except for the van running after me. Heres an idea of some of the
things that can go wrong 2 flats once on the mixer and the other on the
car when I was using it. The rollers get hot and that heat is tranfered
to the tire. Mixer jumping the rollers the van jumping the rollers.One
broken blade a little light duty thing (I thought would chop better
WRONGGGG) having metal chasing you at 200 to 250 rpm is still fast. Ok
anyway you get the idea your working with an open top upside down mower
sure the rpm is slower but trust me it can bend steel. I know I called
it racking off the blade(while it was running)it hit the 1/2 steel rod
drove it into the baffle of the tank yanked it out of my glove. When I
got out it had a nice V shape at the end and had coiled around the base
of the hub below the blade about 9 times. Things can happen fast and
deadly and it worse with a roller or stationary mixer because your
standing right there, unlike the guys pulling their mixers something
goes wrong for them back behind them, they have all kinds of metal to
protect them its not a big deal.
OK off my stump lol
Ken

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wrote:
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> I have the pics posted on here now under Dale's pc adventures. - Dale
>

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[papercreters] Re: Next Papercrete Building Code Chat: Saturday, Sept 29, 4pm ET

Today's papercrete Building Code chat will officially begin at the
top of the hour.

Side conversations and joke telling is starting now.

You still have time to download Yahoo Messenger if you need to.

If you haven't already done so, please reply to this message to let
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See you there!

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> The Papercrete Code Team will be holding a live online chat
> conference.
>
> Saturday, September 29, 4pm ET,
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> POST A REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO GET INVITED TO THE CHAT.
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> The format of this chat will be informal. While we want to
> accomplish some things, we'll try to have fun while doing it.
>
> No boring minutes. No Robert's Rules of Order. Just a group of
> friends discussing what they want to accomplish and how to do it.
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