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Thursday, July 30, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Sunny Acres (was Papercrete Nirvana)

Perry, that is fantastic. What a wonderful undertaking and am very interested in knowing what happens. If there is anything I can do let me know. Ev

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Perry Way <perryway@gmail.com> wrote:

Sunny Acres Update Addendum:

Evelyn and fellow lurkers,

I just met with Dan DeVaul, owner of DeVaul Ranch and Sunny Acres (I had the spelling wrong earlier) briefly after lunch and gave him the quick 2 minute spiel about papercrete since he pressed me for some kind of details. I have invited him to dinner tomorrow night where we can discuss this Co-op idea I have that will benefit him, the community and future papercrete builders here in San Luis Obispo. I don't know if you knew this already but recently Forbes did one of those ratings for the best place to live in the country and the city of San Luis Obispo came up as the #1 ranking. That blew me away! Little San Luis Obispo, city caught midway between the history and the future. Perhaps this is apropos, a Co-op in San Luis Obispo and we can take a leading role in getting papercrete approved as a building material.

I will let y'all know what happens over time, as well as the details to the Co-op idea I have. But for the moment I'm stealing some time from work to write this email so I've got to go.

Perry

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Perry Way <perryway@gmail.com> wrote:

For the lurkers, Sunny Acres is an 80 acre site on the outskirts of San Luis Obispo. It is the remnants of an old old ranch (DuVaul Ranch), the man who owns it is a recovered alcoholic and he runs a non-governmental controlled sort of halfway house for people who needed to get back on track in life. Homeless people, recovering alcoholics, battered women, ex con's etc. His method of working with people was a special method, one filled with love. It was highly successful from the standpoint of helping those who went through his special program. It was always a money pit of some kind, it never turned a profit even though they busied themselves operating a roadside vending stand selling things they grew on the ranch as well as seasonal things like Christmas Trees and Pumpkins. The recovery and assistance program was so successful that the County would sometimes send people to Sunny Acres for improvement when the County facilities weren't able to help them. Some time ago, in more recent times, some developer took hillside property nearby and subdivided and built some expensive homes that overlook Sunny Acres. There is a nasty woman on the City Council who bought one of those homes. She's an import from Los Angeles and brings along with her all her big city methods for shutting down honest people like DuVaul (who owns Sunny Acres) because it was an eyesore to her. She pursued relentlessly for years to get Sunny Acres to raze some old barns they had on the property that were in a state of disrepair. And she was successful at forcing them to take down their roadside vending operation because it was being run from a "non-permitted" chicken coup like structure and operating with a business license. DuVaul had to pay out some outrageous fees for attorneys and permits and whatnot.. and because he was operating his ranch as a full blown charity, he had no money to fight the "evil witch". Not being able to even conduct any sales from their vending structure and having to tear it apart, they lacked funds to continue. From what Evelyn is saying, they finally got to DuVaul and now have broken him to the point that he can't keep Sunny Acres running as a charity halfway house any longer. So sad...

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[papercreters] Sunny Acres (was Papercrete Nirvana)

Sunny Acres Update Addendum:

Evelyn and fellow lurkers,

I just met with Dan DeVaul, owner of DeVaul Ranch and Sunny Acres (I had the spelling wrong earlier) briefly after lunch and gave him the quick 2 minute spiel about papercrete since he pressed me for some kind of details. I have invited him to dinner tomorrow night where we can discuss this Co-op idea I have that will benefit him, the community and future papercrete builders here in San Luis Obispo. I don't know if you knew this already but recently Forbes did one of those ratings for the best place to live in the country and the city of San Luis Obispo came up as the #1 ranking. That blew me away! Little San Luis Obispo, city caught midway between the history and the future. Perhaps this is apropos, a Co-op in San Luis Obispo and we can take a leading role in getting papercrete approved as a building material.

I will let y'all know what happens over time, as well as the details to the Co-op idea I have. But for the moment I'm stealing some time from work to write this email so I've got to go.

Perry

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Perry Way <perryway@gmail.com> wrote:

For the lurkers, Sunny Acres is an 80 acre site on the outskirts of San Luis Obispo. It is the remnants of an old old ranch (DuVaul Ranch), the man who owns it is a recovered alcoholic and he runs a non-governmental controlled sort of halfway house for people who needed to get back on track in life. Homeless people, recovering alcoholics, battered women, ex con's etc. His method of working with people was a special method, one filled with love. It was highly successful from the standpoint of helping those who went through his special program. It was always a money pit of some kind, it never turned a profit even though they busied themselves operating a roadside vending stand selling things they grew on the ranch as well as seasonal things like Christmas Trees and Pumpkins. The recovery and assistance program was so successful that the County would sometimes send people to Sunny Acres for improvement when the County facilities weren't able to help them. Some time ago, in more recent times, some developer took hillside property nearby and subdivided and built some expensive homes that overlook Sunny Acres. There is a nasty woman on the City Council who bought one of those homes. She's an import from Los Angeles and brings along with her all her big city methods for shutting down honest people like DuVaul (who owns Sunny Acres) because it was an eyesore to her. She pursued relentlessly for years to get Sunny Acres to raze some old barns they had on the property that were in a state of disrepair. And she was successful at forcing them to take down their roadside vending operation because it was being run from a "non-permitted" chicken coup like structure and operating with a business license. DuVaul had to pay out some outrageous fees for attorneys and permits and whatnot.. and because he was operating his ranch as a full blown charity, he had no money to fight the "evil witch". Not being able to even conduct any sales from their vending structure and having to tear it apart, they lacked funds to continue. From what Evelyn is saying, they finally got to DuVaul and now have broken him to the point that he can't keep Sunny Acres running as a charity halfway house any longer. So sad...

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[papercreters] Re: Papercreters Pail O' Papercrete Competition. Deadline Tomorrow

Tomorrow is the deadline for submitting your entry into the Pail 'O Papercrete competition.

Hurry up and post your entry.

The moderators (nice people that we are) are willing to entertain appeals for a deadline extension if you can post a photo of some partially completed work of you project entry.

So hurry up!!

Get off your Pail and post your entries.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, slurryguy@... wrote:
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> Pail 'O Papercrete Competition.
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> Announcing the first ever "Pail 'O Papercrete" Competition.
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> Objective:
> To encourage as many Papercreters members as possible to mix up a small batch of papercrete and make something fun, interesting, educational, silly, useful, beautiful, and/or any combination of those attributes or more as appropriate.
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> Rules:
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> 1. Cost of materials for anyone to duplicate a project must be less than $10. (Not including tools used to construct the project.)
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> 2. Entries must be described in detail by posting about your efforts on Papercreters. Your descriptions should not only show off your efforts, but provide all the information required for someone to duplicate your project in every detail if they so desire. Include a list of materials used, and their cost.
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> 3. Pictures are required. The more pictures the better. Obviously we want to see your final result, but showing step by step what you did and how you did it will be important. Videos are encouraged, but not required. Putting a link or a credit line encouraging video viewers on YouTube or other video hosting services to come join us on Papercreters would be awesome touch, but not required.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/
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> 4. Possible entry types include, but are not limited to the following ideas:
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> Small science experiments exploring what papercrete can do, different recipes, and/or mixing-forming processes.
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> Art projects of all kinds.
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> Useful household objects that take advantage of papercrete.
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> Any papercrete object that generates a good laugh. (Keep it G-rated.)
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> 5. Members submitting entries should actively answer any questions and help others understand or duplicate what they have done.
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> 7. Submit your entry to this contest by posting about it on Papercreters. Include "POP Contest Entry _________" in the subject line of your post. Fill in the blank by including whatever name you have given your project.
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> 8. DEADLINE FOR ENTRIES IS JULY 31, 2009.
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> 10. Members will vote in a poll to determine the winner.
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> 11. The winning project will be displayed as the featured photo on the Papercreters Home Page for a couple of months. Other prizes may be offered as we work it out. Any member or business that would like to donate a prize for the contest, please email slurryguy@... .
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Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete Nirvana

Thank you, Perry!

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Perry Way <perryway@gmail.com> wrote:

Evelyn, we all experience what you've related from time to time. No harm, no foul. It's "all good" we are kindred spirit eh? :)

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RE: [papercreters] Photo preview of slurryguy driving to Abiquiu

Slurryguy, how did you know that was one of my alltime very favorite movies? I must say that the road to Aspen looks very much like the road to Abiquiu. Can't wait to meet Jim Carey and What's his name.

Sincerely, Judith

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: perryway@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:54:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Photo preview of slurryguy driving to Abiquiu

LOL... OH man that was a good laugh!

I loved that movie! I have a nephew that does every character perfectly.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:43 PM, slurryguy <slurryguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

Taking a cue from Spaceman, I also fired up Google earth to see a preview of my thousand mile journey to Abiquiu.

I was surprised to see that Google would actually create a video clip of me driving my vehicle through the route.

Here is a portion of my trip uploaded to YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRtdgQhVbw

Somehow Google knew someone would be carpooling with me. Anybody recognize themselves in the video?

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Spaceman wrote:

I'm starting to feel lucky that I live "only" six and a half hours away! This afternoon I used Google Earth to generate driving directions, and then "play" the route as a scenic tour. It was interesting but surely did take a long time. And that's at accelerated speed, it will be a long drive in reality.

Is there now an airport in Santa Fe, or is Albuquerque still the closest one?

Spaceman

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RE: [papercreters] Cement Mixer

I am so thrilled to see you on here. I'm sure there will be no shortage of help for you with your mixer problems.

Sincerely, Judith

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: slcalvin@mac.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:49:07 +0000
Subject: [papercreters] Cement Mixer

Hi,

I am new to this forum. What a great idea to get people of like mind together and support each other. We have felt alone somewhat in this endeavor.

Thank you Judith for telling me about this forum.

Anyway, my partner and I are in the middle of building our papercrete home and our engine died on the mixer. Now we are rethinking how to make this less labor intensive and have the walls go up quicker.
Aaron is thinking of using a shredder/chipper for the paper and pouring that into a cement mixer. Does anyone have an extra cement mixer around we could borrow or know where we might find a deal on one to buy?

We live in southern Co, not far from Alamosa.

Any ideas about this would be appreciated.
Sharron

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RE: [papercreters] Driving to Abiququ for PC meet

There is a small airport in Santa Fe but it is expensive to take the hop from Alb. then you still have to drive an hour to get to Abiquiu. Most people just land in Alb and drive up from there. It's just under 2 hrs.

Sincerely, Judith

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: Spaceman@starship-enterprises.net
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:26:54 -0600
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Driving to Abiququ for PC meet

I'm starting to feel lucky that I live "only" six and a half hours away! This afternoon I used Google Earth to generate driving directions, and then "play" the route as a scenic tour. It was interesting but surely did take a long time. And that's at accelerated speed, it will be a long drive in reality.

Is there now an airport in Santa Fe, or is Albuquerque still the closest one?

Spaceman

JUDITH WILLIAMS wrote:

When I lived in central Or I used to drive straight west across the state, down through Idaho, Utah, SW CO, the Four Corners area. It was 24 hrs exact. If I got tired I pulled over in Moab to sleep for an hr or 2. Nice ride.

I guess you'll have to decide if you drive or fly. I'm not sure what I'd do but you have dogs to consider etc. I'm really looking forward to meeting you so hope you make it.

I really can't wait to meet everyone.

Sincerely, Judith

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To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
From: dirtcheapbuilderbooks@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:53 -0700
Subject: [papercreters] Driving to Abiququ for PC meet
wow.. I just ran a mapquest-- for me it will be 1453 miles, and 22+
hours driving, so 3 8 hour days since I can t drive 12 hours a day
anymore-- 8 is my full limit.

makes flying sound good, and def. will find a dog sitter.

we have no real airline service to anywhere here, so will also check
out flying If I must.

the worst part is driving towards Los Angeles, my most unfavorite city.

I MUST focus on the end reward!

I would consider picking up some one on the way!!! ... I can email
the full route to anyone who is South of me and interested to travel
along, and share gas.

we could meet up at some point, and either I come to you, or you meet
me close to the route at a public place where you can park your car
for a week
( I dont really want to drive 100 miles out of the way to pick up
folks if I dont have to.)

so I am tossing that out as an invite. 101 South from Eureka CA
thru SF, Bakersfield, above LA, Flagstaff across the 1-40 thru AZ
to ALbu. to Judiths

am willing to pick up a 3nd or 4th person at short distance too.

email me if interested, and I will send the route I have
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Thursday, July 30, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Sunny Acres (was Papercrete Nirvana)

[papercreters] Sunny Acres (was Papercrete Nirvana)

[papercreters] Re: Papercreters Pail O' Papercrete Competition. Deadline Tomorrow

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Re: [papercreters] Re: Papercrete Nirvana

RE: [papercreters] Photo preview of slurryguy driving to Abiquiu

RE: [papercreters] Cement Mixer

RE: [papercreters] Driving to Abiququ for PC meet

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