Monday, October 1, 2007

[papercreters] windows -was- Re: Hi Newbie to the group... some insights?

Sorry about getting off papercrete a little on this post.

My personal opinion may not be something that everyone agrees with,
and that's fine. To each their own.

Just speaking thermally. WINDOWS ARE EFFECTIVELY A HOLE IN YOUR
WALL. If your only goal is to optimize thermal performance of a
structure there are far better ways to transport the sun's energy
inside than to use windows, IMHO. Moving heated water is far more
efficient than moving heated air, and it's far easier to create a
heat battery for cloudy days. Keeping your insulation envelope
completely intact makes sense.

Does this mean I don't want windows? Of course not. Windows are a
picture frame on the world. They also allow in light. I want
windows. I just want windows in my structure to make sense.

I've never understood why someone would put a window in a wall that
looked out on the neighbor's brick wall. Who wants to look at that?
There are cheaper and more effective methods to provide ventilation
and even light (that brick wall is probably blocking most of the
light anyway). I suppose if that is the only direction to provide an
emergency egress window it might make sense. Safety is important.
It sure seems a shame to force a sensless view.

Most of the time I am not looking out of my windows. When I'm not
looking out of them I'd like to plug that thermal hole. I plan on
having superinsulated walls of R-50 or better. Even triple glazed
argon filled glass yields what? R4? I'd call that a thermal hole.

My latest insulated curtain design idea eliminates magnetic seals.
It is a simple roll down shade design where a rod or tube acts as a
spool. When open, the spool is at the top of the window with the
insulating and decorative fabric rolled around it. The top edge of
the fabric is permanantly attached to the top casing. When closed,
the entire spool decends unfurling the fabric as it goes. The spool
rolls along two sloped tracks on each side of the window that are
about 1/4" per foot out of plumb. The sloped ramps on each side
allow the fabric and spool to rest against them and eliminate air
convections. Depending upon the stiffness of the fabric and the
width of the window, dowels or other stiffeners are sewn into the
fabric horizontally at vertical intervals. Gravity holds it all in
place.

Keep in mind that the window wells I anticipate are deep, around 2
feet. There is plenty of room to hold this.

Of course, first things first. I don't have my land to build on.
I'm not really too worried about window treatments. I need to buy my
view before I look to frame it.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "D Gardner" <dgardner1@...>
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>
> I was thinking about the comments about the shades for your windows
> (on the home being discussed in previous posts). Interesting.
>
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Re: [papercreters] Rodeo Pushpinned -was- Re: New Member Intro

It would be greatly appreciated if you delete may email from your mailing list.
 
Many thanks
 
 
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: [papercreters] Rodeo Pushpinned -was- Re: New Member Intro

Rodeo NM has been pushpinned.

No horses were harpooned by this pinning.
(If a spammer got speared, serves 'em right!)

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, cloud wall <windwalkerwill@...>
wrote:
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>Where we are hoping to go to is an even more remote town called Rodeo,
NM 88056. That is where the papercrete house and workshop are.
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[papercreters] Rodeo Pushpinned -was- Re: New Member Intro

Rodeo NM has been pushpinned.

No horses were harpooned by this pinning.
(If a spammer got speared, serves 'em right!)

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, cloud wall <windwalkerwill@...>
wrote:
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><snip>
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>Where we are hoping to go to is an even more remote town called Rodeo,
NM 88056. That is where the papercrete house and workshop are.
>
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[papercreters] Lurking -was- Re: New Member Intro

Lurking is welcome here if that is how somone wants to enjoy the group.

Joyce... a luker? ROTFLLLLLLL

Let's just I wish all our lurkers would post as many good messages as
she has! I'm sure Joyce has many great talents, but she's a really
lousy lurker, AND I'M GLAD!

hehehe

Don't go changin'. You keep lurking as loudly as ever.

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, Joyce E <yz0ld0wl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Clarissa, and welcome! My project hasn't gotten much further than
> the planning stage -- yet! -- but I am saving every single scrap of
> paper, not letting DH burn any of it. Questions are always welcome;
I
> still have quite a few of my own! LOL! But mostly, I lurk...
>
> :-) Joyce in SE Ohio
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RE: [papercreters] Hi Newbie to the group... some insights?

We can exchange nosiness. I know nothing about the desert and want to soak in every bit of knowledge that I can find... the drought, loss of trees, etc. is happening where we are now in NC, not in the desert. Here there has been pretty much no rain for the last nine months. Only one serious downpour, a residual from one of the hurricanes that went through the gulf.  That rain put out the forest fires that came within a half mile of our farm so, I'll be eternally grateful for that.  According to the forest rangers, it had to soak at least 9" into the ground in order to put out the fires. Immediately after that rain, the trees in our woods started to fall and I don't mean the little ones.It was the great oaks that were falling.  We have a neighbor that we jokingly refer to as 'he who knows all' who told us that it was because it had been so dry that the roots of the trees were no longer working properly and the sudden, heavy rain washed them lose and they fell. You never know if he's telling you something accurate but the trees sure did come down and no one else has an explanation.
When we first moved here, putting up fence posts was a serious challenge. If you dug a 3' hole and stopped to sip on your coffee, the hole would fill with water. That demanded some creativity and the altered  fence posts worked out pretty well. There's a clay sand mixture about 18" under the ground, then a whole layer of peat which fascinates me but I can't explain it and below that, clay and something called sandstone.
This year, I moved some of those fences and the water is gone. Our farm sits on an aquifer or it did up until this year.The local farmers thing that we've had one bad season and everything will return to what it was, next year. I talked to one 83 year old who said that it hasn't been this dry since 1930. I believe we are looking global warming in the eye and that this year's weather is a peek at what's to come. Either of us could be wrong.
So.... I don't know anything about desert life. According to the weather stats, it's cooler there than here. I'm a transplanted Yankee that knows mountains. I loved the wilderness look of the desert place and the fact that the off the grid features were already in place.  I think that I can be doing more to reduce energy consumption than recycling and using low energy light bulbs. I'm not a techie so there's a lot that I don't understand about creating an off the grid living space. This one seemed to be the only place that gave me room for the horses and an already viable system. The different plants and animal life fascinate me, too.
Clarissa

Janoahsh <janoahsh@alaska.net> wrote:

Please forgive my nosiness',
I know what you mean about loosing trees.  We lost about 99% of our Old Growth Spruce.  Climate change and spruce bark beetles.
I've been hearing about the aquifers dropping hundreds of feet in the mid west, thus my concern when I saw pictures of the area.  I love the deserts.  You are indeed fortunate to find such a haven.
Janosh
 

From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cloud wall
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:28 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Hi Newbie to the group... some insights?
 
There is a well. There are two 70 gallon hot water solar powered storage tanks. I asked how many gallons per minute the well pumped and I'm still waiting for an answer from the realtor. There is supposed to be a good aquifer in that valley. There was a good one here, until this year and the drying up has wreaked havoc with the trees and woods.
Clarissa


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RE: [papercreters] Hi Newbie to the group... some insights?

Please forgive my nosiness’,

I know what you mean about loosing trees.  We lost about 99% of our Old Growth Spruce.  Climate change and spruce bark beetles.

I’ve been hearing about the aquifers dropping hundreds of feet in the mid west, thus my concern when I saw pictures of the area.  I love the deserts.  You are indeed fortunate to find such a haven.

Janosh

 


From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cloud wall
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:28 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [papercreters] Hi Newbie to the group... some insights?

 

There is a well. There are two 70 gallon hot water solar powered storage tanks. I asked how many gallons per minute the well pumped and I'm still waiting for an answer from the realtor. There is supposed to be a good aquifer in that valley. There was a good one here, until this year and the drying up has wreaked havoc with the trees and woods.

Clarissa

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[papercreters] recipe database guru Re: Message #4113

{This is a project that has needed someone to volunteer, take the
lead, and give this information the attention it deserves. ]

After reading Message #4106 I emailed Nori, who have send me the
link to her database at

http://www.papercreters.net/
The database is a pretty clean setup and makes it unneccesary for me
to duplicate her good work. I prefer to cooperate where possible to
make this Papercreters Database the best possible, as I invite
everybody interested in PC to cooperate with the good work Nori is
puting up.

I regestered to become a PC database member and got the message:
[Before you will be able to add or edit information, your registration
must first be approved by one of the designated administrators. To
notify an administrator of your registration, post a message on the
Papercreter's Yahoo group.]

I hope that with this message I comply with that condition
grtn Jan


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