Monday, July 2, 2007

RE: [papercreters] prickly pear

Hey Mikey!

Prickly pear is to the Southwest what kudzu is to the South. If you don’t want it to grow, don’t let it touch the ground. You haven’t worked a lot with prickly pear? You’re in for a real treat. ;) It’s not really the long, obvious sharp spine you have to worry about, although those are really annoying when they stick you and break off under your skin… but those are fairly easy to avoid. It’s the little “fuzzy” looking things down at the base of those spines that you have to watch for. Once they’re in your skin they’re almost impossible to get out and they’ll irritate you for several days…like having 100 little paper cuts. Don’t use cloth gloves. Good, heavy leather gloves will work. The spines and little stickers can be burned off but since you’re after the juice that probably wouldn’t be a good idea.

You asked about the valuable part of the prickly pear? Weeeeeellll…..I guess that all depends on your perspective. ;) It’s valuable *entertainment* for me…I douse it with lots of combustible material and light up the sky while waiting with my shotgun for snakes to come zooming out. GREAT entertainment. But that’s probably not what you were asking, was it. ;) All parts of the prickly pear (with the exception of the spines) are edible and parts are medicinal. There’s really a lot of enthusiasm these days for a treatment for diabetics since what the Mexican people have known for probably centuries has recently been proven that the prickly pear will help the pancreas produce insulin. You can cook prickly pear like squash, thicken stews with it, make wine & jelly with the fruit, or eat it raw (after you’ve peeled it). If you want recipes to eat them, let me know or there’s lots of recipes on the ‘net.

I found an old article that I’d saved about prickly pear whitewash. Since it’s an old article from before the days of multi-gig hard drives I didn’t save all of it like who wrote it or where it was published. Synopsis follows:

The prickly pear is used in making a highly effective water-proof paint for homes. The technique originated in Mexican rural areas and is probably pre-Columbian. It was mostly used in the 16th to 18th centuries for painting churches and convents and the smooth paint gave a shiny, silk-like finish if egg whites were added to the mixture. A type of whitewashing is also excellent for animal housing (chicken coops, stables, etc…) because it acts as a germicide and sealer, which prevents the formation of bacteria and the nesting of insects. Stables, hen and rabbit houses should be whitewashed at least two times a year.

The waterproofing substance is made by adding water to chopped paddles of the cactus, lime and salt in the right proportions. About 25 gallons of water is added to 20 chopped stems of the prickly pear cactus (with or without the spines).

Chopped stems should be soaked in water for 24 to 48 hours. The mixture is then strained to remove the chopped stems, leaving only the slimy water. To this decanted fluid is added a mixture of about 40# of lime and 4# common salt.

A thick white paint will form, and it is then used for painting. It is recommended that at least two coats of this paint should be applied within a minimal interval of 24 hours. This paint gives an intense white color to any kind of wall. Painting ferro-cement structures with this special whitewash seals the cracks that may have formed in the setting of the cement. The waterproofing effect is 100 per cent. The whitewash also results in better lighting, as white reflects light in the inside of the buildings. The paint on the outside results in the reflection of sunlight and thus diminishes heat

Thought that might interest you. Good luck and keep those little stickers out of your hands & clothes!

Pat


From: papercreters@yahoogroups.com [mailto:papercreters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mikey Sklar
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:36 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] prickly pear



I've been offered large amounts of prickly pear from a nearby farm that
is doing some landscaping. I don't know much about using it with
papercrete, but I bet some folks on this list do.

Here is what I've found so far about prickly pear and papercrete.

- cement substitute in plaster - quicklime (slack it) add the prickly
pear cactus gel.

- sealing papercrete - applying prickly pear mucilage.

- cement substitute in papercrete - no recipe found.

Questions:

1. What part of the prickly pear is valuable? The paddles or the fruit, or
both?

2. How do I Break down prickly pear? Tow behind? In my usual stucco or
block mix?

3. How do I spray prickly pear mucilage? Airless paint sprayer or
tirolessa?

4. Recipes?

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Re: [papercreters] Fibrous Cement - some photos

Hi Mike,

Rather than using Portland - I used bagged stucco mix in about the same mix proportions as you would make papercrete with Portland (about one bag of Portland per yard of total material). What you see there is strictly papercrete - no paint, sealers or stucco (other than the stucco in the mix). I mixed the paper and water in the mixer and mixed smaller batches in 5 gallon buckets for application - in this way I could keep a batch of paper slurry for a couple of days and the smaller 5 gallon batches were easier to control the formulation. One of the buildings shown was about 4 years old when I took the photos - aside from some initial cracking the material is holding up VERY well.

John

Mikey Sklar wrote:


John,

What did you use for you stucco mix and paint/plaster on the structure
in the photos?

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[papercreters] prickly pear


I've been offered large amounts of prickly pear from a nearby farm that
is doing some landscaping. I don't know much about using it with
papercrete, but I bet some folks on this list do.

Here is what I've found so far about prickly pear and papercrete.

- cement substitute in plaster - quicklime (slack it) add the prickly
pear cactus gel.

- sealing papercrete - applying prickly pear mucilage.

- cement substitute in papercrete - no recipe found.

Questions:

1. What part of the prickly pear is valuable? The paddles or the fruit, or
both?

2. How do I Break down prickly pear? Tow behind? In my usual stucco or
block mix?

3. How do I spray prickly pear mucilage? Airless paint sprayer or
tirolessa?

4. Recipes?

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Re: [papercreters] Fibrous Cement - some photos


John,

What did you use for you stucco mix and paint/plaster on the structure
in the photos?

On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 02:02:56PM -0000, fibrouscement wrote:
> http://www.ranchocalypso.com/papercrete/
>
> I have posted a few of the thousands of papercrete photos I have
> gathered over the years. I have pumped into forms, made blocks and
> stucco'd with papercrete - all with excellent results.
>
> I have a Mike McCain tow mixer (a later model). Some years ago I met
> Mike in Sun City (have a bunch of photos). Fibrous Cement works!
>
> John Calypso
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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[papercreters] Fibrous Cement - some photos

http://www.ranchocalypso.com/papercrete/

I have posted a few of the thousands of papercrete photos I have
gathered over the years. I have pumped into forms, made blocks and
stucco'd with papercrete - all with excellent results.

I have a Mike McCain tow mixer (a later model). Some years ago I met
Mike in Sun City (have a bunch of photos). Fibrous Cement works!

John Calypso

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[papercreters] Frog Names --was-- Re: First sculpture

Names. Hmmmmmm

I've got a few ideas. Sure!

Spacefrog01of99
dbigFrogger
pckfrog
Elffrog
frogertmerrill1953
frogjr24
slinkyfroggie
froggiesklar
ys_old_frog
frog78245
lefafrog
bornofthefroggies

we can't forget
froga7439

If you paint him SUPER UGLY,
slurryfrog
It better be a really hideous paint job to live up to that name.

Does anyone think he/she resembles any of those names? I can add
lots more that I left out...

heh heh heh

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, M G <marcia7439@...> wrote:
>
> I can't take the credit for his cutness....I admit I copied him
from a picture.
> I too thought the original looked adorable, so I had to make
a 'relative' . <smile>
> I haven't named him....any suggestions?
> He has dried out so nice, and will give him a good coat of sealer
and some paint. I just don't like the idea with papercrete, that I
can't file him and give him clean sharp looking edges etc.
> I was hoping the sealer might allow me to do that...If I seal him
well, and then possibly 'clean' him up. I can't file newspaper! haha
> Have a great day!
>
>

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Re: [papercreters] Re: First sculpture

I can't take the credit for his cutness....I admit I copied him from a picture.
I too thought the original looked adorable, so I had to make a 'relative' . <smile>
I haven't named him....any suggestions?
He has dried out so nice, and will give him a good coat of sealer and some paint. I just don't like the idea with papercrete, that I can't file him and give him clean sharp looking edges etc.
I was hoping the sealer might allow me to do that...If I seal him well, and then possibly 'clean' him up. I can't file newspaper! haha
Have a great day!


slurryguy <slurryguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nice job Marcia.

I like the expression on his face. It makes me wonder what bug he just
ate. :)

Have you named you new pet?

--- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com, "marcia7439" <marcia7439@...>
wrote:
>
> I made an album in this group
> http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/papercreters/photos/view/de83?b=2
> I hope this works. I'm not good at sending urls.
> Marcia





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