Thursday, January 29, 2015

Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Okay so it has to go on certain surfaces to be covered?

We do have a city home to renovate and would use it on basement walls and a floor. But. Have written and ask about prepainted floors.

Thanks for your input.

Calle

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From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:43 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Greetings,

The warranty didn't hold with an alternative building product under it.  We only bought one can to test it, so no big deal at the time.  This was about a decade ago and things change, but it flaked off in the Texas sun. 
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/29/2015 3:29 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
So the 10 year warranty is a joke?

Calle

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From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper

 







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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Greetings,

The warranty didn't hold with an alternative building product under it.  We only bought one can to test it, so no big deal at the time.  This was about a decade ago and things change, but it flaked off in the Texas sun. 
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/29/2015 3:29 PM, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] wrote:
 
So the 10 year warranty is a joke?

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper

 







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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



So the 10 year warranty is a joke?

Calle

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
From: Kim Travis gartht@windstream.net [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:18 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper

 







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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



Greetings,

We tried it a long time ago, it was okay for a year or two, but didn't hold up.  And it is expensive, or was in those days.
Kim Travis PDC  The Rose Colored Forest  Bedias, Texas
On 1/20/2015 11:18 AM, gd@moworx.com [papercreters] wrote:
 

Hi all,

has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof papercrete? Is it working?

I found this:

Long available for industrial applications, crystalline waterproofing is now used in residential applications. It consists of a dry powder compound of Portland cement, very fine treated silica sand, and proprietary chemicals. Combining the product with water and applying it to the surface of concrete results in a catalytic reaction that forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline fibers within the pores and capillary tracts of concrete. This seals the concrete against the penetration of water or liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is one of these products. Supposedly this will work in either cured papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's pricey, but said to be so effective that it's possible to make ponds with papercrete. If it will hold water without leaking, it should prevent water penetration.

papercrete, fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in Paper

 







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Donald:

I love the idea of recycling used oil.

I guess after some time it will not smell any more of french fries ;-)

I powered my truck with that oil, and man, all the neighbors got sort of appetite whenever I drove past.

It would be interesting to see if it is waterproof enough to hold water for a long time like in a pond.

Also if there is no used oil available I think one could just buy cheapest vegetable oil from the supermarket.

Anyway, I like that more than the chemicals

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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof



PLEASE share the exact details and portions. 
We will use the other product on a city house to sell, but am more than willing to use your fine recipe on our underground house or pallet sheds.

Thanks for sharing, and for your creations.

Calle

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From: Donald Miller donald1miller@yahoo.com [papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:02 PM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

 

I made a waterproofing coating using used cooking oil which I burn in my diesel truck, Portland cement and fine sand. Not much cement or sand, I don't remember the exact proportions, but it soaks into the papercrete and dries hard and definitely waterproof as I can spray it with water and it doesn't soak in at all. It is definitely cheap, which appeals to me as I have to watch my pennies to make ends meet. I also made a "stucco" mix using only the oil and sifted fine clay which I have an abundance of here. I put it on with a roller and/or a stiff bristle brush. It dries very hard and is waterproof. I didn't put that on papercrete but on OSB sheeting. It sticks very good to that so I am reasonably sure it would do the same to papercrete. I will be using that this summer on my papercrete blocks I'm putting on the exterior of my new house.
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On Thu, 1/29/15, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 10:56 AM


 









Tasha,
Thanks, duckduckgo.com'd it and no near
local suppliers.Spoke to a young lady from GlobalIndustial and
she has already sent me product and spec sheets.Have several applications for
products.We want to use
earth bag construction with petrified Hession, some paper
Crete in underground house construction. 
Calle




Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the
Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.



From: Tasha
tashatesla@gmail.com [papercreters]Sent:
Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:52 AMTo:
papercreters@yahoogroups.comReply To:
papercreters@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really
waterproof















 









See
http://www.drylok.com/formulas/latex-base-drylok-masonry-waterproofer/

TASHA




On
1/29/2015 8:30 AM,
valledecalle@yahoo.com
[papercreters] wrote:





Have no idea but
sounds wonderful.
How much does it
cost, how is it applied and under what conditions is
it applied,
what are the testing methods that assessed the
durability  of
this mixture?



Calle



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10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
network.


From: gd@moworx.com
[papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015
8:57 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Making
papercrete
really waterproof





 

Hi all,



has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof
papercrete? Is it
working?



I found this:



Long available for industrial applications,
crystalline
waterproofing is now used in residential
applications. It
consists of a dry powder compound of Portland
cement, very
fine treated silica sand, and proprietary
chemicals.
Combining the product with water and applying it
to the
surface of concrete results in a catalytic
reaction that
forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline
fibers
within the pores and capillary tracts of
concrete. This
seals the concrete against the penetration of
water or
liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is
one of these
products. Supposedly this will work in either
cured
papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's
pricey, but said
to be so effective that it's possible to make
ponds with
papercrete. If it will hold water without
leaking, it should
prevent water penetration.



papercrete,
fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in
Paper











papercrete,
fibercrete, fibrous concrete -
Living in
Pap...
THE
SITE The first thing
you have to look at in any kind of
construction is the site.
Orienting the home
to take maximum advantage of
passive solar
design is of p...









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Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof

I made a waterproofing coating using used cooking oil which I burn in my diesel truck, Portland cement and fine sand. Not much cement or sand, I don't remember the exact proportions, but it soaks into the papercrete and dries hard and definitely waterproof as I can spray it with water and it doesn't soak in at all. It is definitely cheap, which appeals to me as I have to watch my pennies to make ends meet. I also made a "stucco" mix using only the oil and sifted fine clay which I have an abundance of here. I put it on with a roller and/or a stiff bristle brush. It dries very hard and is waterproof. I didn't put that on papercrete but on OSB sheeting. It sticks very good to that so I am reasonably sure it would do the same to papercrete. I will be using that this summer on my papercrete blocks I'm putting on the exterior of my new house.
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 1/29/15, valledecalle@yahoo.com [papercreters] <papercreters@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really waterproof
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2015, 10:56 AM


 









Tasha,
Thanks, duckduckgo.com'd it and no near
local suppliers.Spoke to a young lady from GlobalIndustial and
she has already sent me product and spec sheets.Have several applications for
products.We want to use
earth bag construction with petrified Hession, some paper
Crete in underground house construction. 
Calle




Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the
Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.



From: Tasha
tashatesla@gmail.com [papercreters]Sent:
Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:52 AMTo:
papercreters@yahoogroups.comReply To:
papercreters@yahoogroups.comSubject:
Re: [papercreters] Making papercrete really
waterproof















 









See
http://www.drylok.com/formulas/latex-base-drylok-masonry-waterproofer/

TASHA




On
1/29/2015 8:30 AM,
valledecalle@yahoo.com
[papercreters] wrote:





Have no idea but
sounds wonderful.
How much does it
cost, how is it applied and under what conditions is
it applied,
what are the testing methods that assessed the
durability  of
this mixture?



Calle



Sent from my BlackBerry
10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
network.


From: gd@moworx.com
[papercreters]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015
8:57 AM
To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Reply To: papercreters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [papercreters] Making
papercrete
really waterproof





 

Hi all,



has anybody tried UGL DriLok to waterproof
papercrete? Is it
working?



I found this:



Long available for industrial applications,
crystalline
waterproofing is now used in residential
applications. It
consists of a dry powder compound of Portland
cement, very
fine treated silica sand, and proprietary
chemicals.
Combining the product with water and applying it
to the
surface of concrete results in a catalytic
reaction that
forms several inches of non-soluble crystalline
fibers
within the pores and capillary tracts of
concrete. This
seals the concrete against the penetration of
water or
liquids from all directions.  UGL DryLok is
one of these
products. Supposedly this will work in either
cured
papercrete or in the wet mix itself. It's
pricey, but said
to be so effective that it's possible to make
ponds with
papercrete. If it will hold water without
leaking, it should
prevent water penetration.



papercrete,
fibercrete, fibrous concrete - Living in
Paper











papercrete,
fibercrete, fibrous concrete -
Living in
Pap...
THE
SITE The first thing
you have to look at in any kind of
construction is the site.
Orienting the home
to take maximum advantage of
passive solar
design is of p...









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